Joe/NotCommon said:

I hate how people always try to set it up on this board like there is some sort of competition between me and every other promoter, because their isn't. I don't even know Jonah. To say my shows are any less DIY is bullshit, and to say things like 'Time for everyone who's bitching about no all ages shows to support' is stupid. I am sure alot of the bands I book would agree that time has come and gone. For some reason people outside the scene I book in try to act like I am some sort of evil empire and that these underground all ages shows should be supported more then the corporate shows from notcommon at those corporate dive bars like Obriens and the Block. It's the most ignorant attitude I've encountered in my life. For years these sorts of bands didn't have many places to play, and when they did it was mixed up on some stupid line up that got them nowhere. Alot of these bands wouldn't have places to play with bands they want to play with if it wasn't for me booking shows, it's not like I am just jumping to the fore front of some huge movement that already existed, we created this (me and the bands I book and the fans). Another thing, Jonah's shows seem to always have the same local bands so bashing me for that is retarded as well, I'd say I book from a wider selection of local bands. Just because it's not the same bands he does doesn't mean I am overlooking the true underground scene.

Josh Ascendancy tried to do this same fucking thing with me and Nick of Silver, and what I just said goes for that as well.

Nobody, well not any of promoters, are putting anyone in a position where we make them choose who to support, we just book shows that we want to book and have fun doing it. I think I can speak for Jonah on that.

If you don't want to support shows in the 'scene' I am a part of and hate the bands then fine, but to act like it's anything more then that is just fucking gay and I hope you die.

Joe, you are paranoid.
As far as the Nick Silver incident, you got insanely paranoid over me talking about all the promoters in the North East, but you magically interperted that as you being the only promoter. If anything that post was directed towards Sin promotions who at the time was actively pursuing shows in the area. I didn't pull anything on you, trying to make yourself look like a victim is so fucking retarded. I woulda told you this months ago in all those emails and phonecalls I sent to you but since you refused to talk about it (for whatever reason), you dwelled into your warped perception.
I'm shocked you took the time to write a big paragraph about how ignorance bothers you. If you are so bothered by this shit you should start up your own thread instead of raiding Jonah's with this bullshit.
Honesty goes a long way with me.
THIS SHOW IS GONNA BE FUCKING INSANE!!!!!*

*this statement in no such shape or form is directed in ignorance to Joe Notcommon or the participants in the opposing scene at the Watchmaker show on 12/19.