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:	post by PatMeebles at 2006-09-26 02:32:34

ShadowSD said:

WHATEVER number you accept have been killed as a result of Bush's actions is still vastly greater than the number killed by Clinton's actions. So you've done nothing to counter the actual point being made there.

Except for the fact that all Bush did was follow through on the Clintonian policy of regime change in Iraq. And besides, this is like saying "well, Chamberlain's policies were better because not as many people died under him than under Churchill."

Shadow SD said:

If Bush really wanted to put troops in the Sudan, he wouldn't have put all our troops in Iraq; most UN peacekeeping forces are to a large extent American

We've been pushing for the African Union to take control of the region, not just an average UN force.

ShadowSD said:

No, the main source was a Republican who spearheaded the whole project

No, that's the guy who wrote the script. If you watch the movie, both administrations get the blame, while Richard Clarke looks like the messiah.

ShadowSD said:

The movie glaringly contradicted the 9/11 commission report.

It's a DocuDRAMA. It can make up scenes, as long as it adheres to the general history that it's relating to, which is that Clinton, when handed Bin Laden on a silver platter multiple times, refused.

ShadowSD said:

At the end of the day, if those three things are true, you have to admit the movie is biased with a pro-Bush/anti-Clinton slant, regardless of whether the rest of the movie also criticizes Bush for stuff the 9/11 report says he should be criticized for.

That statement contradicts itself. If it criticizes Bush for what he did wrong, then it's not being Pro-Bush.

ShadowSD said:

Let's say it's not 42% then, for the sake of debate. Certainly he spent more time vacationing than other presidents, even conservatives don't try disputing that.

What conservatives do you talk to? Do you even think that Bush is ever REALLY on vacation?

ShadowSD said:

Last I heard, [Leiberman] still is a member of the party

Well, it's not like anyone can stop the guy from registering as one.

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