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:	post by DestroyYouAlot at 2009-03-14 00:51:59

Sorry about this, folks. We'll be back to our regularly-scheduled nonsense shortly, but I've taken a few moments out of my day to address a very special someone. Don't worry, dick jokes will be back soon.

OH HAI SETH

Well, I guess we're doing this, now. I've been pretty closed-mouthed about why I left Herugrim, because I respect the other guys in the band, and I still believe in the music that they're doing. But you've been anonymously dry-humping me up and down RTTP on and off ever since I quit, and the first time you saw something you could take offense at, you jumped at the opportunity to sling some shit (under your own name for once, miracle of miracles). If you can't deal with my mentioning that I didn't get along with somebody in the band, fine, whatever - as I said to your face already when I quit, yeah, it's you. I was completely honest that I didn't like playing with you, so I wasn't gonna do it anymore. No butthurt feelings were necessary. And that's the other reason this shit hasn't been out on RTTP - I said what I needed to say to you in person, like an adult. It wasn't the internet's business why I left, and, frankly, the particulars wouldn't have reflected all that positively on the band, so nobody heard shit. No need to play fucking insult tennis on the intertubes, but here we are - fine, bait taken.

Here's the exchange we're branching off from:

(Me talking about strumming bass chords.)

arilliusbm said	[orig][quote]
herugrim could have used that, dude. :\'(

DestroyYouAlot said	[orig][quote]
You guys'll find somebody, dude. (Specifically "someone who can get along with everybody in the band.")

Seth said	[orig][quote]
if you mean me then, it was not getting along, it was compromising with what the band wanted and not what you just wanted. What was best for the band! Sorry if you were called out, but being in a band is compromise and working together! Giving and taking and not telling others you will and then dont!

(BTW: I've been pretty fucking patient with this crap for a while, but fuck this. So...)

DestroyYouAlot said	[orig][quote]
LRN2BLST, PLZ

Seth said	[orig][quote]
I would if you could do sixteen notes without putting triplets in there and singing in key! Thanks you. Sorry if i use normal english!

DestroyYouAlot said	[orig][quote]
This thread isn't about band drama or your hurt feelings. Start a new one and I'll respond and lay out all your bullshit for everyone to laugh at.

Seth said	[orig][quote]
Please keep believing my feelings are hurt. Sorry but you are mistaken for hurtness when I mentioned about a band. Then you had to take a shot at me about blasting!! so you started the drama. Go an read back before you say things. Thank you!

DestroyYouAlot said	[orig][quote]
Ok, other thread now. This should be fun.

Now that we're all up to speed...

Let's see:

You are a douche. A giant, flaming douche at that. And you've established an unimpeachable reputation in the NE metal scene as a douche. (Ask around, sometime.) Playing with you for a year made me hate music for the last 6 months of it, which is quite a fucking accomplishment. You were, what - 34? 35? - when I was in the band, and you acted like a 5 year old. Throwing tantrums at practice, slamming shit around, storming out, refusing to play, playing too fast or two slow on purpose, you name it. If you have a problem with someone, you tell everyone else but them, talk shit about them on the internet (anonymously, of course), and - from what you told me about when you and PaganMegan lived together - come in their shampoo bottles and fuck with their food and shit. You somehow think that you can tell me this kind of shit and I'll think that "Oh, no, we're cool, you just act like this to everybody else on the planet." Here's a tip: People aren't that dumb. I'm certainly not.

Thing is, if you were a rock-solid drummer who could anchor a band, I'd probably have overlooked an awful lot of douchiness (or at least been able to stomach it for longer). You're not, though. You're powerful with mid-paced shit, and your fills are creative as hell. You're an unexciting player on slow stuff (MORE SABBATH, PLZ), but that's not a fatal flaw in a metal drummer. However, you want to be Mr. Blastbeat all the time and do SICC BROOTAL STUFF DOOD. Two problems: A) You feather the snare, and it's inaudible when you blast. You are already aware of this, because you've told us that this was a problem in previous bands, but you never do anything about it (like it's our problem). B) As soon as you start to blast, you lose the ability to count to 8. 12345678 1234567 12345678 123456 isn't raw and br00tal, it's sloppy. This also isn't fatal - plenty of bands deal with this, to be honest - except that your accents are in completely random places, the fills either go over or drop beats, and you insist on always doing straight double bass along with, so there's not a damn thing to lock onto. And when nobody can follow, you blame everyone else. If I didn't know any better, I might have believed you, but I've played with drummers who can actually blast (Tim from Nadir and Marc from Steve & Dave, for example), and never had a hard time following what was going on. Playing beyond your ability is one thing (that's how people improve, to a certain extent), but nobody can tell you anything because you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, so it never changes. From what I heard about the amount of drum edits required to make the Hekseri demo possible, this is nothing new. TAKE A LESSON, SMELLHAMMER.

On top of all this, the fucking power struggle bullshit. I try to get shit done, you drag your feet because it's me trying. I set up a time to get pictures taken at an epic site with a talented photographer using nice gear who will work for free, you refuse to do it because we can just have somebody point a disposable at us wherever. I set up time to record vocals at a good friend's private studio, which we can use for free and until whatever hour of the night, you bitch about the scratch track and take cheap shots. This was definitely the straw that broke the camel's back, BTW.

Let's see what kind of fun experiences playing with you has brought me:

You steal Matt from Malkuth's hi-hats at our first fucking show. (BTW, again: If you'll do it to someone else, why am I supposed to believe you won't do it to me? Remember that black LTD 6-string I used to have? Wonder how much that'd go for in a pawn shop.) Great, so now we're the band that steals shit - sweet reputation to start off with. When I call you on it, you change your story and you "just saw them laying around and were saving them." Except I have to chase you around for WEEKS trying to get you to ship them back to the kid. Finally, when they're playing with Possessed THAT WEEKEND I have to go to your work, grab them from you, and overnight them myself. I wonder if I ever would have seen the money for the FedEx if I hadn't just deducted it from space rent. (BTW, Ryan GC: Sorry I didn't fill you in on this little tidbit ealier - hopefully you can understand that it's sort of fucking awkard.)

Second show: We play at O'Brien's on a weeknight to like 20-30 people, and OMG WE DIDN'T GET PAID so you start all kinds of fucking internet drama over it the next day - anonymously at first, of course - and keep it going even after I ask you to JUST FUCKING STOP ALREADY. Do you even know what a reputation is, or do you just trash your own so regularly that the concept is foreign to you? Protip: You're not Tommy Lee, and we weren't Motley Crue. Luckily Rich is enough of a dude to say fuck it and let it slide - way to alienate the one dude booking black metal shows in Boston all the same, numbnuts.

Third show: We play at the Wheelchair - DIY-type warehouse space, for those of you who don't know, not Great Woods - and you throw a fucking hissy fit because OH NOES I GOT BEER ON MY DRUMS. Seriously? In your long and illustrious career as Captain Thrash (which you never got tired of talking about), this has never happened to you? So, again, pack up your shit in a huff in front of the entire crowd, swearing and dropping shit, and we gain a thousand douche reputation points. Real class act. (BTW: You dropped about a minute and a half off of "Runes," and about 4 bars of "Woods.")

The other shows were pretty much more of the same, you dropping multiple bars and blaming it on us, bitching about money, and finally taking off with whatever door cash we made at the last one. That's ok, you know what they say about divorce - it's expensive, but it's WORTH EVERY CENT.

The next few months, other than mysterious pissy posts whenever I post about bands or bass, are quiet, and then OH NOES I let it slip that I didn't get along with someone in the band, and you come along and whine about it and talk shit.

So now we're not BFF anymore, and as I'm not retarded, I fully expect to have lots of mysterious, never-posted-before anonymous posters talking trash to me in broken English. Everyone here remembers the months and months of PaganMegan threads, and nearly everyone here knows full well they were 90% you. (Here's an AnonySeth post: Little or no caps, sparse to non-existant punctuation, broken sentence structure, and YOU ALWAYS LOG IN AND POST AS YOURSELF A MINUTE LATER. HOW FUCKING STUPID DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE?)
Like this, for example:

Ilanuim said

[orig][quote]

DestroyYouAlot said	[orig][quote]
At this point I'm faster with my fingers than I ever was with a pick, but I have been doing a lot of sharp chord strumming with the back edge of my nail. Tough to keep it even, volume-wise, but I'm getting to really like the sound.

How fast and do you use the thumb at all? Are all of your four digits up to spead?

BTW, this:

Seth said	[orig][quote]
Sorry if i use normal english!

is fucking priceless.

So now I'm the bad man who took your lolly, and I'm in standing in front of a loaded trollgun. OH NOES

For the record, I have no problem with Mike or Jim, and I'm sorry that they've got to be associated with all this nonsense. I'm fully down with playing shows with Herugrim when they're ready to go; John already knows to watch his hi-hats.

Here are your talking points summed up real quick:

I have had some trouble singing in key at shows. I also recorded a scratch vocal at somebody's house, and the clean parts sounded "like a pussy."

I occasionally, when playing bass unaccompanied by a drummer, fall into a triplet pattern.

Some other bullshit, probably.

OK NOW YOU GO

Steve DYA

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