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: post by RustyPS at 2009-08-11 12:13:03
tito%20francoma said[orig][quote]
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
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understand this: the TEAM won us 2 championships...it had little to nothing to do with tito other than he kept friendly w/ all the players. I challenge you to come up w/ one decision he made that led to either of those championships besides sticking w/ Pedroia during his slow start.he's a players coach and 1 more season of the type of decision making he's made this year AND HE'LL BE RUN OUT OF TOWN!
2 off the top of my head:

1) starting Ellsbury over Crisp in the 2007 playoff/WS run
2) starting an unproven David Ortiz (I know when he first got here he was sharing time with Jeremy Giambi, but NO ONE saw him doing anything until Francona started him)

touche',
just pissing about his pitching decision...especially lately. I think when you get to crunch time in the season as we are now the pitch count should be reconsidered if the pitcher is in the zone and if a game is getting out of hand , don't let the dude keep pitching!!!!
2 rebuttals to that: you shouldn't mortgage your future on one game, so keeping a tight pitch count for some pitchers is the right thing to do....and I think Tito wants to show he has confidence in guys that they can get out of jams, which doesn't always pay off (read: Smoltz x infinity)

its important though...if you take a guy out every time he gets in a jam, the pitcher will lose confidence in you, which is the worst thing that can happen to a coach/manager...but if you leave them in in a jam and they get out of it, his confidence (both in himself and in the manager) will go through the roof

case in point: Jon Lester...he'd get into jams pretty much every inning it seemed for the first 2 years in the majors, and was able to get out of 99% of them...I personally think he wouldn't be the pitcher he is right now if Tito had taken him out every time he was in a big pressure situation
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