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:	post by arktouros at 2011-06-29 13:59:49

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there were a number of problems: (spoilers below)
1.) not too sure how I feel about Spock going back in time, etc.
2.) some parts reminded me way too much of star wars (random alien guy at the bar, spock/yoda similarities, monsters on a snow world with a snow cave - Hoth much?)
3.) could have found a better Russian actor instead of that annoying kid
4.) not enough character development for the antagonists
5.) some of it reminded me of Starship Troopers. just some parts were a little cheesy.
6.) they should have destroyed the drill in the first place
7.) we need more Cho
8.) NO KLINGONS AT ALL IN THE MOVIE, ONLY MENTIONS OF THEM

1) trek has always been very liberal with time travel and they do it in many ways (warp, transwarp, borg portals, the end of voyager, wormholes, etc...) and this isn't the first time that trek has pulled the "meeting your older self" trick.
2) the random alien guy at the bar is MORNE from deep space 9. there are at least a couple episodes based on him. he is in most bar scenes and never says a word. i won't even get into how yoda is a ripoff of spock. the ice planet - they needed some desolate place to dump kirk off, meet spock and put a federation outpost, i guess. jungle planet, desert planet, ice planet. it's all been done. trek > wars, etc etc
3) the kid had big shoes to fill and he did a good job. in the 60's series especially, chekov was crucial, having a russian on tv was huge.
4) i agree with this, but they really only needed some absolute evil psychopath who didn't need much development, just a thin back story. they had to use a romulan instead of a klingon, because the romulan would have had a connection to the vulcans and therefore destroying planet vulcan would have greater impact.
5) star trek is the king of cheese. i was surprised there was no obligatory phaser battle in some red rock canyon.
6) the drill's whatever field screwed with the enterprise sensors. LIKE ALWAYS.
7) no, we need more GAY ZULU
8) klingons weren't in the fight and would not have been interacting with the federation at that time.

i just wanted to prove aril wrong two years later. just watched this again the other night, it still rules. everyone is onboard and working on a sequel due out next year. the only problem i have with the new cast, is it's cool they got john cho to play zulu, but out of respect to george takei, they should have made the character 100% more homosexual. in this timeline, vulcan is destroyed, and i'm curious to see where they go with that.

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