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:	post by pam at 2009-07-27 20:06:07

Conservationist said

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Yeah, I see what he did there.

Since we're all equal, does it really matter which group was wronged?

No it doesn't. Read my 2nd post above (made before I noticed your trick, btw). I have had a problem with hate crime legislation for a long time.

Not because it doesn't apply to white people, but because it's applied selectively and excludes gays and lesbians who in my opinion, need it more than ethnic minorities.

And of course there's the more obvious point that I think it's fucking stupid to tack on a heavier sentence because a crime has racist motive. If someone beats a black kid for being black, rapes a woman because they can, or shoots a white convenience store manager in the head...it's all hate crime.

Putting more weight on the first one because it's race-motivated seems, to me, to make light of the later two. I can see how this kind of extra punishment might have had it's place before, but I think it's outdated and pointless.

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