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:	post by Where is my stimulus check? at 2009-09-21 14:28:22

Doomkid said

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The problem with railing against liberalism in America today is that if we revert to a more hands-off governing style we'll probably fall behind the rest of the world. China and the EU both have massive support for commerce and industry from the government which gives them an advantage.

More than just industry we're falling behind in funding for science and technology which are going to be the cornerstone of the dominant empire for the 21st century. And personally I'd like to see America continue to be the world leader in science and culture as well as the military.

I think this situation is more complex than most would wish it to be.

Conservatism as solely being natural selection/Social Darwinism is a response to the increasing liberalization of the West.

At their hearts, no political ideologies are hands-off.

The point of Conservatism is that instead of using command economies based on defending the weakest from harm, we focus on rearing the best and pointing them toward new ground to conquer. That's why all of our technology and industrial might originated in more conservative times.

If government wanted to support industry, one great way would be to go back to a "winner takes all" style of governing -- intense reward for achieving intense victories, instead of a whole lot of people "at jobs" in the name of equality.

Europe is in deep doo-doo and although China is not, I think that will come soon. Both of them have sickened their reward structures and are accumulating parasites, and as a result, are importing people to try to take the place of the workers they don't have. The issue isn't however that they don't have enough smart people; more likely, it's the the smart people are working in the wrong places on the wrong types of task.

If we eliminated our American welfare state, which is basically subsidizing African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, lower Asians and lower Caucasians, we could redirect that money into the greatest R&D machines ever, namely the military and NASA.

That would reward everyone indirectly as those technologies made it to market. That's trickle-down economics for ya ;)

Good topic.

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