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returntothepit >> discuss >> triggers by tyag on Oct 3,2005 8:48am
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toggletoggle post by tyag at Oct 3,2005 8:48am
Anyone have any that TYAG can borrow for recording? Or anyone looking to sell theirs? drop me an email at tyagxgrind@comcast.net if you can help! thanks. Devon



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Oct 4,2005 12:20am
triggers are for homos who canno create real BD sounds...pussiesss



toggletoggle post by Dissector   at Oct 4,2005 12:22am
If there's one thing I know about Devon (the drummer) is that he can do anything without triggers. They probably just want the sound.



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Oct 4,2005 12:33am
it's for recording purposes. the easier it is to lay down the drum tracks the better.

and yes, devon can definitely do anything without triggers. the drum sound in the room we're recording in is fucking weird as hell so we kinda need triggers for that.



toggletoggle post by DEATH2ALL  at Oct 4,2005 12:35am
anonymous said:
triggers are for homos who canno create real BD sounds...pussiesss


And I'm guessing....names are for homos who aren't worried about someone knowing who they are when they talk shit.?.?.?.

What do your kicks sound like?



toggletoggle post by tyag at Oct 4,2005 11:26pm
um.... yeah so back to my original question.



toggletoggle post by attendmyrequiem at Oct 5,2005 1:04am
devon why not get samples and use sound replacer?



toggletoggle post by diamond_dave  at Oct 5,2005 6:15pm
Normally I would agree with anonymous, but Mark is right, sometimes you just can't get a good sound in a certain room. Although, you should be able to close mic, and depending on what you are recording with you can gate the decay, then add an artificial delay/reverb. The only other thing i can suggest is to buy a trigger setup from Guitar Center, then return it when you are done recording.



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Oct 5,2005 6:56pm
go to guitar center in north attleboro and ask for Jeff,
he's our guitarist, tell him what band youre in and he'll hook you up pretty cheap.
then bring it back like dave said ^^



toggletoggle post by Hooker nli at Oct 5,2005 6:57pm
get in touch with Bredan. tell him hooker sent you.

http://www.stonecutterproductions.com



toggletoggle post by Hooker nli at Oct 5,2005 6:59pm
ah fuck. he took the site down. you can find him here somewhere.

he may rent them for cheap or just let you borrow them.



toggletoggle post by nate nli at Oct 5,2005 7:09pm
The trigger argument is lame... Most guitarists use different amps or pedals for different sound and effect, even to help tune. Drummers that use triggers use them for the same purpose. They can be set to sound like a perfectly tuned kit. At shows they are easier to level out and sound consistent. Triggers are awesome I think, but that's my 2 cents.

Get em and return em.



toggletoggle post by Distrust-Kevin at Oct 5,2005 8:48pm
I know nobody asked me, but.......

triggers just don't have the boominess that a natural mic sound gives.
I've never used 'em and never will.
Especially snare drum triggers. How do you think these super fast blast guys go so fast? they are barely tapping their snare drum, but with the trigger on it sounds like they are hitting it hard, which they are not. That's kinda like cheating??? but hey, if you can get a better sound out of it, that's all that matters i guess.



toggletoggle post by Dissector   at Oct 5,2005 8:55pm
I personally don't like the sound of triggers I was just stating that Devon isn't using them to cheat.



toggletoggle post by tyag at Oct 5,2005 9:08pm
I'm going to use close mics and triggers, mixing the 2 is best sound replacing on protools works but I want something that will be actually captured through the performance and not tweeked after. I didnt mean to spark a debate, I don't care about oppinion cause every big band (and small) use them at some point I'm sure I was just looking to find a kind soul who'd let us use them for tracking.....

Also I can get a good kick sound. Not a problem, its consistancy and not wanting to fucking compress or Sound Replace that keeps me looking.



toggletoggle post by Sanchez at Oct 5,2005 10:24pm
tyag said:
its consistancy and not wanting to fucking compress or Sound Replace that keeps me looking.


So you need to use triggers so your bass drum volume is consistent? Yeah, that's not cheating.



toggletoggle post by VICTIM at Oct 5,2005 10:25pm
if you cant play your instrument, all the digital manipulation in the world wont save you!



toggletoggle post by VICTIM at Oct 5,2005 10:26pm
VICTIM said:
if you cant play your instrument, all the digital manipulation in the world wont save you!


you should kick puppies in the face instead of playing drums



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Oct 5,2005 10:28pm
Its only cheating if the drummer uses them to solely to cover up the fact that he cant keep a consistant beat, which as previously stated in this thread isnt the case with devon.



toggletoggle post by Sanchez at Oct 5,2005 10:30pm
Aegathis said:
Its only cheating if the drummer uses them to solely to cover up the fact that he cant keep a consistant beat, which as previously stated in this thread isnt the case with devon.


...and which was later admitted by tyag that the bass drum sound on the recordings is not consistent.



toggletoggle post by VICTIM at Oct 5,2005 10:31pm
Aegathis said:
Its only cheating if the drummer uses them to solely to cover up the fact that he cant keep a consistant beat, which as previously stated in this thread isnt the case with devon.


if you cant kick the thing with the same pressure and need a machine to help your incompetence your cheating



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Oct 5,2005 11:43pm
VICTIM said:
Aegathis said:
Its only cheating if the drummer uses them to solely to cover up the fact that he cant keep a consistant beat, which as previously stated in this thread isnt the case with devon.


if you cant kick the thing with the same pressure and need a machine to help your incompetence your cheating



Right, thats exactly what i meant. if your uncoordinated it will still be noticable,BUT some people prefer the sound of the triggers. I dont how ever i like the natural drum sound mic'd. I get quite annoyed with of triggered snares,during blasts.



toggletoggle post by born so french at Oct 5,2005 11:54pm
i dont know, ive played with 2 drummers that used triggers and it was a huge pain in the ass both times! honestly i wont even jam with someone whos got them anymore ...



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Oct 6,2005 12:24am
Sanchez said:
Aegathis said:
Its only cheating if the drummer uses them to solely to cover up the fact that he cant keep a consistant beat, which as previously stated in this thread isnt the case with devon.


...and which was later admitted by tyag that the bass drum sound on the recordings is not consistent.



he doesn't mean the consistency of our drummer; it's the consistency of the sound in the studio. we've recorded at the same place before and the drum sound was a fucking bitch to level out because of mic's moving not even a centimeter, throwing things out of whack, and just random spots of unnecessary reverb and echo. that alone took half our recording time.

this argument really doesn't matter, since we'll be doing whatever the fuck we want anyway.



toggletoggle post by Handinjury NLI at Oct 6,2005 6:28am
mark fucking richards said:
Sanchez said:
Aegathis said:
Its only cheating if the drummer uses them to solely to cover up the fact that he cant keep a consistant beat, which as previously stated in this thread isnt the case with devon.


...and which was later admitted by tyag that the bass drum sound on the recordings is not consistent.



he doesn't mean the consistency of our drummer; it's the consistency of the sound in the studio. we've recorded at the same place before and the drum sound was a fucking bitch to level out because of mic's moving not even a centimeter, throwing things out of whack, and just random spots of unnecessary reverb and echo. that alone took half our recording time.

this argument really doesn't matter, since we'll be doing whatever the fuck we want anyway.


Yes, because automating kick tracks suck, trust me , I did it this week. Use the triggers.



toggletoggle post by Aegathis nli at Oct 6,2005 8:15am
Handinjury NLI said:
Yes, because automating kick tracks suck, trust me , I did it this week. Use the triggers.


Dude , come see us at the new wave next friday



toggletoggle post by DEATH2ALL  at Oct 6,2005 10:06am
why is this even an argument? People should wait till they hear the recording, before they pass judgement. Did you find any triggers yet?



toggletoggle post by Al_Ravage   at Oct 6,2005 10:17am
You can get a set of triggers for less than 50 bucks



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Oct 6,2005 10:21am
there are plenty of drummers better than all of you who use triggers, so shut up. hahaha.



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Oct 6,2005 1:57pm
nah, we haven't gotten em yet. i don't even think we have enough money collectively as a band to buy the triggers and return them, haha. we are poor as hell. we could indeed get a set of triggers for 50 bucks, if they suck or are used and someone is desperate for cash. you also need the module too.

i'm gonna try contacting hooker's friend, but like we said, if anyone can lend us some on here that would be sick. we record next weekend (saturday oct. 15th and sunday oct. 16th), and would only need to use them for that time period.



toggletoggle post by M))) at Oct 6,2005 4:02pm
People who bash triggers are probably those who can't afford them...



toggletoggle post by DEATH2ALL  at Oct 6,2005 5:41pm
I'd lend you mine, but I have Teratism practice sunday. And I only have 1 normal trigger & my kick triggers are part of my pedals. I'd have to give you my pedals too. sorry!



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Oct 7,2005 10:31pm
sall good man, it's the thought that counts



toggletoggle post by greggdeadface at Oct 14,2005 12:58pm
triggers are for pussy ass drumers that cant play hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by anongoroth at Oct 14,2005 12:59pm
yessssssss!



toggletoggle post by godamn at Oct 14,2005 1:03pm
greggdeadface said:
triggers are for pussy ass drumers that cant play hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you don't even play hard, fag.



toggletoggle post by greggdeadface at Oct 14,2005 1:10pm
thats not what ya mama said asshole,and have i ever used triggers no so fuk ya face!!!!!!!!!! hahaahahahahaha fuker



toggletoggle post by anongoroth at Oct 14,2005 1:12pm
yeah kill'm, punch'm in the face. yeah get'm



toggletoggle post by mOe  at Oct 14,2005 1:19pm
I use kick drum triggers on recordings and anyone who's seen me play knows how hard i hit..so BOOYAH!
And i yes, i do prefer a triggered drum sound for heavier music...but thats just me



toggletoggle post by greggdeadface at Oct 14,2005 1:22pm
triggered drums are not what the acutal drums are supose to sound like.u loose the natural sound for more of a dialed in sound,it sounds so fukn fake!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by mOe  at Oct 14,2005 1:42pm
i splice in natural sound with triggered sound..DUH..i throw a mic in front of my bass drum as well as triggers...the overheads pic up some bass drum sound as well



toggletoggle post by Joey nli at Oct 14,2005 2:18pm
mOe said:
I use kick drum triggers on recordings and anyone who's seen me play knows how hard i hit..so BOOYAH!


Yes we do... not so hard during the blasts. BOOYAH!

Keep practicing that baton twirling you do also.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Oct 14,2005 2:35pm
post by greggdeadface at Oct 14,2005 1:22pm

triggered drums are not what the acutal drums are supose to sound like.u loose the natural sound for more of a dialed in sound,it sounds so fukn fake!!!!!!!!!
the only fake around here is you you fat bitch



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Oct 14,2005 4:23pm
this is still going???

for those of you who prefer triggers, sorry, we won't be using them

for those of you who prefer natural, congratulations, we won't be using them.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Oct 15,2005 4:49pm
i once pretended to be a fat bitch then I became one.



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