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returntothepit >> discuss >> What about the Wu Tang show last night? by Sweatpants on Feb 8,2006 8:16am
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toggletoggle post by Sweatpants at Feb 8,2006 8:16am
Did anyone go? I'm off to the Paladium tonight. What songs did they do. I just hope the night is dominated by Rae and Ghost. That Ghostface has mighty colorful slang words.



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Feb 8,2006 9:25am
Why is Rap being discussed on a Metal forum?



toggletoggle post by chris_from_shit_fuck  at Feb 8,2006 10:48am
because people like to have a wide taste in music.

No I didn't go last night, I would go tonight but I have to go review Final Destination 3 at the premiere in Boston.



toggletoggle post by Moran NLI at Feb 8,2006 10:56am
I'll be there tonight. I can't fucking wait.



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Feb 8,2006 12:02pm
chris_from_shit_fuck said:
because people like to have a wide taste in music.

No I didn't go last night, I would go tonight but I have to go review Final Destination 3 at the premiere in Boston.



Wide taste in music huh? I dont consider Rap to be music.Its all electronic bass and niggers babbling.Fuck RAP!!!!!!




toggletoggle post by mike............ at Feb 8,2006 12:11pm
wow, that dude has absolutely no idea of what he is talking about. i wish i could go to the show but i am in amsterdam for the semester. i just missed wu tang here.



toggletoggle post by Ionsphere  at Feb 8,2006 12:16pm
yet this kid listens to judas priest, the GAYEST of all metal bands...

and yet "niggers" are babbling...

well i guess you enjoy faggots screaming, and babbling.

good for you!



toggletoggle post by Cecchini   at Feb 8,2006 12:17pm
MetalcoreSUCKS said:
chris_from_shit_fuck said:
because people like to have a wide taste in music.

No I didn't go last night, I would go tonight but I have to go review Final Destination 3 at the premiere in Boston.



Wide taste in music huh? I dont consider Rap to be music.Its all electronic bass and niggers babbling.Fuck RAP!!!!!!




Actually, it's not very musical, if at all for that matter, but its very cultural. And well, if it wasn't for black music, we wouldn't have blues here, which wouldn't have lead to rock n roll, which wouldn't have lead to hard rock, which wouldn't have lead to metal... and well, you'd be shit out of luck.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 8,2006 12:47pm
you can tell that Metalcoresucks is like 15



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Feb 8,2006 1:13pm
Ionsphere said:
yet this kid listens to judas priest, the GAYEST of all metal bands...

and yet "niggers" are babbling...

well i guess you enjoy faggots screaming, and babbling.

good for you!



WOW!!! You are a POSER!!! Priest are the KINGS of Classic Metal.How can u not like them? Go and listen to NWA u LOSER!!! And Im no kid,Im 29.



toggletoggle post by SerpentRainbow at Feb 8,2006 1:28pm
Judas priest ripped off janes addiction on there latest album they are done with. Wu tang clan aint nuttin to fuck wit', You dont listen to rap music, you hear the rap music they play on mtv...that is not rap that is corporate sellout music that those people dont even write themselves. Just dont type before you think guy.



toggletoggle post by Ionsphere  at Feb 8,2006 1:32pm

kings of classic faggotory...

keep making your way up the homosexual kingdom, you're almost there!!!!

ALL HAIL KING!!

for he is the 29 year old virgin, who listens to metal albums, drinks bad beer, and listens to priest in his parents basement!




toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 8,2006 1:53pm
God damn I wish I could make it to this...but I have to fucking work tonight. Fucking boss.



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Feb 8,2006 2:00pm
The board is full of posers and people who listen to rap.Rap and Metal DONT FUCKING MIX!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Feb 8,2006 2:27pm
what the fuck, metal , metal, metal....fuck hardcore, nu-metal, rap, hip-hop, metalcore, can't we just discuss metal



toggletoggle post by Cecchini   at Feb 8,2006 2:51pm edited Feb 8,2006 2:51pm
MetalcoreSUCKS said:
The board is full of posers and people who listen to rap.Rap and Metal DONT FUCKING MIX!!!!!!


Wait, wait, wait, didn't metal get a driving cause because people hated following rules or have to fit into some standard or some bullshit like that? If someone likes rap doesnt that make them even more of a rebel because they are going against silly metal standards that people live by like sheep?




toggletoggle post by Moran NLI at Feb 8,2006 3:35pm
Why is it wrong for people to like different styles of music? I love metal, but I like it for the music, not just because its metal, like most people. I like old Motown, Rap, R&B, Blues, whatever just as much.And rap can be very musical. Listen to anything that the Neptunes have produced. Even the Roots, they play all of their own music. And "niggers babbling"? There's a good chance that they are all smarter than you, and have better vocabulary than most people you know. Stop being closed minded and venture out. You like and learn something.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 8,2006 3:39pm
I just don't like the sound or feel, and most of all most of the lyric content of Rap artists. I will admit a very few rap artists, and they are probably not rap, are good. But for the most part Metal, Classic rock, European Folk, Hindustani classical, classical, and progressive music is all I can listen to without getting upset that some people have mass followings of fans while other groups are lucky to tour once a year.



toggletoggle post by Nobody_Cares at Feb 8,2006 3:39pm
>>
Actually, it's not very musical, if at all for that matter, but its very cultural. And well, if it wasn't for black music, we wouldn't have blues here, which wouldn't have lead to rock n roll, which wouldn't have lead to hard rock, which wouldn't have lead to metal... and well, you'd be shit out of luck.>>
I think a lot of the progressive hip hop these days is quite musical. At least they are going beyond sampling a James Brown record or a soul record. Artists like El-P, MF Doom, RJD2, or Kool Keith productions are taking elements from classic rock, world music, and using analog synths that are played by the producer. The major gripe I have with hip hop is egos. Rap is about saying how badass you are and mostly bragging. I like metal because mostly they let the music and the musicianship speak for itself. I make rap records, but I almost totally listen to metal, so I sort of adopt that attitude of not caring about image, and just writing about good concepts that will be understood by intelligent, lovers of music. I would hope my hip hop could be appreciated by metal heads, because I sample metal, and naturally reference metal bands in my lyrics."Darkthrone, kingdoms Emperor, seek to the Exodus/Son of Darkness, stay Immortal in the freezing temperatures". To me music is music and I know what good music is and it's about whatever nods my head and makes me feel.



toggletoggle post by Nobody_Cares at Feb 8,2006 3:40pm
Oh yeah, I started this post but just changed my name.



toggletoggle post by Moran NLI at Feb 8,2006 3:40pm
And thats good. You're no limiting yourself to one style. Branching out is something you need to do.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 8,2006 3:40pm
p.s I think the reason most people are mad here is because this community mainly focuses on Metal and Metal like music, so they are afraid of other music genres taking over the boards, sure let a wu-tang post slip in here or there, but what if tomorrow there was a post about how awesome the Good cHARLOTte concert was?



toggletoggle post by Moran NLI at Feb 8,2006 3:41pm
Moran NLI said:
And thats good. You're no limiting yourself to one style. Branching out is something you need to do.


This was directed towards Y whatever.



toggletoggle post by Nobody_Cares at Feb 8,2006 3:49pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
p.s I think the reason most people are mad here is because this community mainly focuses on Metal and Metal like music, so they are afraid of other music genres taking over the boards, sure let a wu-tang post slip in here or there, but what if tomorrow there was a post about how awesome the Good cHARLOTte concert was?


That could never happen because metal enthusiasts only appreciate quality music. True underground hip hop and underground metal aren't that far away in the spectrum, as they are both uncompromising in their expression.



toggletoggle post by bahhhaa at Feb 8,2006 7:34pm
MetalcoreSUCKS said:
Ionsphere said:
yet this kid listens to judas priest, the GAYEST of all metal bands...

and yet "niggers" are babbling...

well i guess you enjoy faggots screaming, and babbling.

good for you!



WOW!!! You are a POSER!!! Priest are the KINGS of Classic Metal.How can u not like them? Go and listen to NWA u LOSER!!! And Im no kid,Im 29.



looks like we have a joe christianni on our hands.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Feb 9,2006 2:32pm
MetalcoreSUCKS said:
The board is full of posers and people who listen to rap.Rap and Metal DONT FUCKING MIX!!!!!!



You, my friend, are an idiot. That is all.




toggletoggle post by Nobody_Cares at Feb 9,2006 3:55pm
Holy fuck Wu killed the Palladium last night. Meth was definately the most active, crowd walking and getting the crowd the most hype with "M-E-T-H-O-D Man". They did ALL the classics, "It's Yours", "Ice Cream", "Triumph", "Liquid Swords", "Incarcerated Scarfaces", "Cream" and we all sang Ol Dirty songs. They even did acapella freestyles which I thought Cappadonna was the best. U God forgot the words and drank too much Hennessee. RZA and GZA dropped some strong words on everyone.



toggletoggle post by Nobody_Cares at Feb 9,2006 8:17pm
I thought some RTTP heads were going to the Palladium show. Well?



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Feb 9,2006 8:24pm
MetalcoreSUCKS said:
chris_from_shit_fuck said:
because people like to have a wide taste in music.

No I didn't go last night, I would go tonight but I have to go review Final Destination 3 at the premiere in Boston.



Wide taste in music huh? I dont consider Rap to be music.Its all electronic bass and niggers babbling.Fuck RAP!!!!!!




that was a bold statement



toggletoggle post by poopsmcgee  at Feb 10,2006 11:03am
The toads show was good...but it took fucking forever for the show to start..wu tang came on past midnight



toggletoggle post by poopsmcgee  at Feb 10,2006 11:05am
Nobody_Cares said:
Oh yeah, I started this post but just changed my name.



I started the original post..about the toads show..booya



toggletoggle post by Moran NLI at Feb 10,2006 11:06am
Nobody_Cares said:
I thought some RTTP heads were going to the Palladium show. Well?


I was there. You pretty much summed up the whole night. It was a damn good show.



toggletoggle post by CrunkJuiceNigga at Feb 10,2006 12:14pm
GETTIN' CRUNK YO WHAT?! GETTIN' YO WHAT CRUNK WHAT?! YEA YO GETTIN WHAT YO YEA CRUNK! GETTIN WHAT?!!



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Feb 10,2006 6:29pm
If it helps, myself and a lot of the other guys at the Neuraxis show that night would have all gone to Wu Tang if their was no other shows then.
I have no shame in it.

SPIN THA TWELVES DJ MATHAMATICS!



toggletoggle post by retzam at Feb 11,2006 1:22pm
SerpentRainbow said:
Judas priest ripped off janes addiction on there latest album they are done with. Wu tang clan aint nuttin to fuck wit', You dont listen to rap music, you hear the rap music they play on mtv...that is not rap that is corporate sellout music that those people dont even write themselves. Just dont type before you think guy.


I'm not saying anything about this rap/metal argument, because just like almost every argument on this board, it's going nowhere fast. But, I think you should consider some of the other stuff on Angel Of Retribution. Pretty much everything kicks ass except Revolution (which I like anyway) and Wheels Of Fire, unless you don't like Priest ballads, which would be pretty understandable. Judas Rising, Demonizer, Hellrider, and Loch Ness are all great songs I would think to any heavy metal fan. And I don't see how you could discredit them that much for ripping off a riff. They probably weren't aware of it (we've all written great riffs only to realize a few days later that it is pretty much the same exact riff as it appears recorded by some band you listen to, what if Priest just didn't notice?). And anyway, if you listen to death and/or black metal, there's sooo much of that. The riff I can think of that's copied pretty much exactly as it was before, is that riff in that Dissection song, I think Unhallowed, that Bodom ripped off, but all in all, in death and black metal, since the larger part of the riffs are all really fast and sometimes really simple (especially in black metal), there are a lot of occasions where a riff sounds a LOT like another riff from another band, but maybe in a different key with maybe a couple notes in a series changed or something. I don't feel like going back and seeing if this post makes sense, so sorry if it just hurt anyone's face to read it.



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