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returntothepit >> discuss >> Christian metal by Anti-Racism on Nov 5,2006 12:46pm
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toggletoggle post by Anti-Racism  at Nov 5,2006 12:46pm
Does anyone here like Christian metal? As part of my newfound impetus to tolerance, I want to tolerate Christian metal. I think Christian metal bands are like immigrants, coming to the country of metal and learning the language and taking the minimum-wage jobs we the citizens don't want. Although their way of life often totally conflicts with ours, I think if we tolerate them, we can live and let live (so long as there are more of us come election time). What do you think?



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Nov 5,2006 12:50pm
hahaha



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 5,2006 3:05pm
BELIEVER

DEVASTATION

PARAMAECIUM

I can stomach those.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Nov 5,2006 4:13pm
Extol (Old stuff was black/thrashy)
Frost Like Ashes (Christian "black" metal)
Antestor (Christian "black" metal)
Tourniquet
Vengeance Rising (Old stuff was amazing but too bad the lead singer went to Satanism and devoted a web page to his cause)

Vomitorial Corpulence (Christian goregrind)
Crimson Thorn (Christian death metal)

All these bands are amazing.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 5,2006 5:35pm
ConquerTheBaphomet said:
Extol (Old stuff was black/thrashy)


i was a big fan of old extol. i liked a few tourniquet songs too, and there are probably a couple christian metal bands i enjoy but can't remember. overall, i'm not a fan, but if the music is good, i don't care what the message is.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Nov 5,2006 8:11pm
Christian black metal is an oymoron.



toggletoggle post by magh8 at Nov 5,2006 8:16pm
any of you fucks remember DELIVERANCE...LOL



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 5,2006 9:05pm
Don't forget Mortification! "God Rules!"




toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Nov 6,2006 1:27am
Mortification was good with their old stuff but over the years they lost their death metal edge. They put out a record a few years ago, it was good, but not the old Mortification I like.

By the way, lend your ears to some Immortal Souls, Aletheian, Excurses, The Showdown, and Tortured Conscience. All are of death metal descent.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Nov 6,2006 1:30am
Also, I would like to point out that not every band with Christians in it is a "Christian metal band". This is the stereotype that is in people's minds. Look, people can be Christians and play metal and it's not such a horrible thing. I have heard of bands with spiritual messages that could show up the bands who are all about killing people and worshipping Satan.

To me, this genre is all about the music.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 6,2006 1:32am
Tourniquet's great! or atleast that's what I tell myself and then I listen to it and remember it's not.

mortification's ok.
devastation rules.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 6,2006 12:31pm
the_reverend said:
Tourniquet's great! or atleast that's what I tell myself and then I listen to it and remember it's not.

mortification's ok.
devastation rules.


yeah, i only like a few tourniquet songs. i tried to like a whole album and couldn't.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Nov 6,2006 12:42pm
Mortification sucks.

Extol is great aside from their lyrics. Tourniquet was only good for like two albums (aside from their lyrics). Deliverance was okay (aside from their lyrics). Believer was great.

Trouble was largely considered Christian metal back in the day, but they never pushed their beliefs so they were only Christian in the literal sense, and that was a great band.

Vengeance Rising, however, was amazing Christian thrash, and the lyrics were hilarious. Listen to songs like "I Love Hating Evil" and "Burn Satan Burn". Great stuff.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 6,2006 12:46pm
Living Sacrifice is cool shit ... and that last Stryper album was suprisingly good



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Nov 6,2006 12:46pm
Stryper hahahahahahahahahahaha

to hell with the devil!



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Nov 6,2006 12:48pm
Wasn't Stryper originally a speed metal band? I never could get into Living Sacrifice.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Nov 6,2006 12:49pm
i didnt mind some of Zao's stuff, it wasnt great by any means but a few songs were ok.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Nov 6,2006 3:49pm
Living Sacrifice with their first couple albums with their old singer/bassist was a death/thrash metal band and were really influential in their day.

Stryper will always be the scapegoat of "Christian metal". I like them but it's hard to take them seriously sometimes.

To be honest, I have never heard Devastation. I will have to look them up.

Zao is a very influential part of the real metalcore scene because of the time they came out and what they accomplished. If you watch their DVD "The Lesser Lights of Heaven" they explain everything about the band.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 6,2006 4:42pm
Norma Jean is pretty narsty too



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Nov 6,2006 4:49pm
Norma Jean sucks, I'm sorry.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 6,2006 4:49pm
FuckIsMySignature said:
Norma Jean is pretty narsty too


please retract that statement.



toggletoggle post by aNtHoNy at Nov 6,2006 4:54pm
I'm backing Extol and Believer as being fucking awesome bands. I could give a fuck if they're Christian. The newest Extol CD was whack though.



toggletoggle post by aNtHoNy at Nov 6,2006 4:55pm
wORd tO uR mOmS



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Nov 6,2006 4:56pm
The newest Extol was a change in style because of new members. They wanted a new direction and I don't think I'm into that direction. They seemed to have lost their edge. If you listen to Undeceived and then The Blueprint Dives, it is dramatically different.



toggletoggle post by aNtHoNy at Nov 6,2006 4:57pm
yeah Undeceived and the one after that are mind-blowing. So fucking good. Blueprint Dives makes me go zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Nov 6,2006 5:08pm
Devastation? The speed/thrash band? I didn't realize they were actively Christian.



toggletoggle post by Troll at Nov 6,2006 5:40pm
I'd say Black Sabbath's "Master Of Reality" is a Christian Metal album. Seriously. Ozzy worshipped Weed and Christ, unless his drug dealer was a Mexican by the name of Jesus (Hey-Zeus). Read the lyrics. Thats not the only Sabbath album that touches on the subject of christianity either.

Cristian or not...Good music.



toggletoggle post by anonymousteinberg at Nov 6,2006 6:33pm
Believer sounds like Nuclear Assault on music lessons. No thanks. Extol is crap. Black Sabbath was good until Ozzy left, then the pole smoking mania set in.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 6,2006 6:41pm
Troll said:
I'd say Black Sabbath's "Master Of Reality" is a Christian Metal album. Seriously. Ozzy worshipped Weed and Christ, unless his drug dealer was a Mexican by the name of Jesus (Hey-Zeus). Read the lyrics. Thats not the only Sabbath album that touches on the subject of christianity either.

Cristian or not...Good music.


That album, as far as I'm aware, was Tony Iommi's doing, lyrically at least. He was the big cross-humper out of the bunch. (Still my favorite album.)



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 6,2006 6:41pm
Troll said:
I'd say Black Sabbath's "Master Of Reality" is a Christian Metal album. Seriously. Ozzy worshipped Weed and Christ, unless his drug dealer was a Mexican by the name of Jesus (Hey-Zeus). Read the lyrics. Thats not the only Sabbath album that touches on the subject of christianity either.

Cristian or not...Good music.


That album, as far as I'm aware, was Tony Iommi's doing, lyrically at least. He was the big cross-humper out of the bunch. (Still my favorite album.)



toggletoggle post by Troll at Nov 6,2006 7:30pm
"cross-humper"
haha



toggletoggle post by anonymousteinberg at Nov 6,2006 9:38pm
All Christian bands sing in Spanish.



toggletoggle post by VoidExpression  at Nov 6,2006 10:28pm edited Nov 6,2006 10:28pm
Kekal and Paramaecium definitely. Obviously old-school Living Sacrifice had a huge impact on me as well. Virgin Black, Horde, Lengsel, Eluveitie, Antestor, Vomitorial Corpulence, Crimson Thorn, Saviour Machine and Slechtvalk are all at least decent bands also.



toggletoggle post by anonymousteinberg at Nov 6,2006 11:30pm
Christian metal fans: do you keep extra dicks in the freezer just incase you can't make it through the night without one?



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Nov 6,2006 11:31pm
Also Demoniciduth and Sorrowstorm are great Christian black metal bands.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 6,2006 11:32pm
virgin black is christian?



toggletoggle post by OCR at Nov 6,2006 11:36pm
HORDE!



toggletoggle post by anonymousteinberg at Nov 6,2006 11:49pm
Jon Bon Jovi is Christian



toggletoggle post by VoidExpression  at Nov 6,2006 11:56pm
dreadkill said:
virgin black is christian?


Big time. Them and Saviour Machine have the goth thing on lock.




toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 7,2006 8:37am
Deicide is Christian



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