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returntothepit >> discuss >> Please help Josh Hynes(MVHC hero) by anyonymous on May 16,2007 9:42pm
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toggletoggle post by anyonymous at May 16,2007 9:42pm
Josh Hynes has helped out countless bands and hardcore kids. He’s sacrificed a lot of time, money and sanity so that touring bands and New England hardcore kids could have a great time. Now its time to help him. He’s fallen into some legal trouble and needs to build his O.J. Simpson style defense. He isn’t the type to beg, so I’m begging for him. It doesn’t matter what he allegedly did. Jail isn’t a place for a fellow hardcore kid. There’s no justice, there’s just us. It us vs. them. So be a part of “us” winning.

paypal donations: stepuptakeepyorepup@yahoo.com

If you don't like this post, just move on. I understand the charity paypal thing is overdone. I don't care. I only care about helping my friend in need at this time.

Also, I don't feel comfortable talking about the charges on an open message board while investigations are currently happening, but feel free to google it. You will find it. Word for Word are also creating "Defend Josh Hynes" t-shirts that will be available on their myspace www.myspace.com/wordforwordnh within the next few days.
Benefit show I hear is also currently in the works. Thanks a lot guys.



toggletoggle post by anyonymous at May 16,2007 9:47pm
Bump, come on guys, most of you know him.....



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 16,2007 10:13pm
wtf... I found the police log and read the story. then at the end:
"Teen faces charges he had sex with girl, 12"



toggletoggle post by anyonymous at May 16,2007 10:17pm
the_reverend said:
wtf... I found the police log and read the story. then at the end:
"Teen faces charges he had sex with girl, 12"


Yeah I saw that too, so random! but so far a lot of donations have been recieved thanks a lot everyone! Lets keep this going!



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at May 16,2007 10:25pm
the_reverend said:
wtf... I found the police log and read the story. then at the end:
"Teen faces charges he had sex with girl, 12"


that's the beginning of the next news story, rev, haha



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 16,2007 10:30pm
I know, but I read right into it. wow..



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at May 16,2007 10:31pm
me too, we are suckers.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 16,2007 10:33pm
all day



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at May 17,2007 12:48pm
what's the link to said police log?(if it's online)



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 17,2007 1:01pm
anyonymous said:
Jail isn’t a place for a fellow hardcore kid.


Nope, but it's a great place for violent assholes that like to hit people in the face with padlocks.

It doesn’t matter what he allegedly did.


And it doesn't matter what the other kid did, he didn't deserve to get hit in the face with a padlock at a show. Your logic is terrible.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 17,2007 1:04pm
Dracut man hit in head with padlock

NASHUA -- A 19-year-old Dracut man paid a heavy-metal price for being a "metalcore" fan when he was hit in the head with a padlock when an argument broke out at a concert at the American Legion earlier this month.

Kyle Beauchense was treated at the scene of the April 1 concert but
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refused to be taken to the hospital, according to published reports.

Joshua Hynes, 23, of 40 Arlington St. Manchester, N.H., was arrested on April 7 and charged with second-degree assault.

Police say the fight broke out during a concert that featured bands, Ligeia, With No Remorse, In Remembrance, Kingdom, Neon Hookers and Holy War. Hynes' friend accused Beauchense of pushing at the crowded concert. Hynes allegedly used a full-size padlock tied to a bandana and swung it, hitting Beauchense in the head.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 17,2007 1:05pm
Teen faces charges he had sex with girl, 12



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at May 17,2007 1:07pm
yikes



toggletoggle post by kyle NlI at May 17,2007 2:20pm
yeah i will give these people all my money...he only hit someone with a padlock.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 17,2007 2:33pm
hey rev would you mind if you are able to delete the post of the news article. this is what i wanted to avoid. i'm just trying to help out a friend who doesn't deserve to go to jail for something that got completely twisted around. and unless you were there and saw what exactly happen you have no right to call anyone out on what happened. grow up guys, this is real life, not the internet. people who did nothing are going to go to jail for this. thanks.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at May 17,2007 2:36pm
If he hit a kid with a padlock, he deserves to be in jail. I don't care why he did it. If he did the crime, do the time. Tough shit.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 17,2007 2:37pm
So what's the real story then? I'm not condemning Josh, or trying to be a smartass. I don't know the kid beyond seeing him at shows over the years. I'd just like to know what's the real deal here?



toggletoggle post by Anthny at May 17,2007 2:58pm
RichHorror said:
If he hit a kid with a padlock, he deserves to be in jail. I don't care why he did it. If he did the crime, do the time. Tough shit.


I agree with this 100%. If this guy is 24 and can't control himself enough to not bust out dangerous homemade weapons at all ages hardcore shows maybe he needs to learn a lesson and get out of society for a while.



toggletoggle post by pile of pile at May 17,2007 3:08pm
Haha, what a crazy faggot. I agree with the guy who started this thread, we need this loser back on the streets swinging padlocks and haunting shady highway rest stop bathrooms AS SOON AS FUCKING POSSIBLE



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB nli at May 17,2007 3:14pm
Hey I'm from Dracut!



toggletoggle post by Mike_Giallo   at May 17,2007 3:51pm
Haha at "There's no justice, there's just us"



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at May 17,2007 3:52pm
'Crazy faggot' is the best thing you can call someone.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 17,2007 3:55pm
xmikex said:
So what's the real story then? I'm not condemning Josh, or trying to be a smartass. I don't know the kid beyond seeing him at shows over the years. I'd just like to know what's the real deal here?


I agree, I mean, I'm under the impression that he did, in the end, swing a padlock at someone? And if he didn't, what's the real story? You can't ask people for money and then not tell them what it's for...



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 17,2007 6:04pm
i should have made my original post more clear, it was merely to inform people that know josh and friends that may not be aware of his circumstances. if you don't know him and want to help out, then be my guest of course. but, it was mostly to inform people who knew him. also, people seem to be extremely mature on this board....



toggletoggle post by Dwellingsickness at May 17,2007 6:25pm
RichHorror said:
If he hit a kid with a padlock, he deserves to be in jail. I don't care why he did it. If he did the crime, do the time. Tough shit.


exactly , I hope he does the time for this shit. Why is it that hc kids need weapons to settle something. fuck that shit. pussies



toggletoggle post by jared_the_zompire  at May 17,2007 6:33pm
He didn't use a padlock. The police found one and are suspecting they did. Typical Lowell Sun play on words. What happened was just. The kid that this happened to started the fight. He got his ass beat so decides to turn things around for his benefit. If you are a true friend of Josh then yeah help him. If you don't know him don't bother with this thread and don't run you mouth about him.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at May 17,2007 6:46pm
or youll beat us up?



toggletoggle post by internet toughguy at May 17,2007 6:46pm
that asshole and everyone like him are the reason hardcore shows stopped being fun. I hope he gets fucking raped.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at May 17,2007 6:47pm
They should arrest everyone at hardcore shows, just for going.



toggletoggle post by jared_the_zompire  at May 17,2007 6:49pm edited May 17,2007 6:50pm
Yeah that's exactly what I was trying to say.....
All I was trying to say was if you don't care then why run your mouth about him. Did I say "or i will beat you up". Nope I deffinatly didn't. You wern't at the show so you have no idea what happened.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at May 17,2007 6:50pm
you should of, you wuss.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at May 17,2007 6:52pm
No I sure wasnt, because then Id have to pray for gay aids in the ass, compared to that man-sex froth frenzy.



toggletoggle post by internet toughguy at May 17,2007 6:52pm
well, if you seriously wanted to help out your meat head friend, then why the hell did you post here? dip shit.



toggletoggle post by internet toughguy at May 17,2007 6:55pm
I can't wait for a real-life cro mag to brake josh's pelvis with a series of well executed lubeless thrusts. pick up that change, fag... WHAM!



toggletoggle post by jared_the_zompire  at May 17,2007 6:59pm
Right...I'm a dip shit. And I didn't post the original post about helping him.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead is logged in... NOT at May 17,2007 11:28pm
jared_the_zompire said:
The kid that this happened to started the fight. He got his ass beat so decides to turn things around for his benefit


It takes two people to fight. It doesn't matter who said what, who started it, or who used what weapon. Your buddy fucked someone up, and now is learning that there are consequences for assault in this country. Don't come here with your friends and talk about immaturity, or justice. You really seem to have little sense of either.




toggletoggle post by ArrowHead is logged in... NOT at May 17,2007 11:44pm
jared_the_zompire said:

All I was trying to say was if you don't care then why run your mouth about him?


Because, maybe some of us fear that the next time it might be one of US that ends up getting into shit with some monkey that doesn't know when to draw the line between words and useless violence. Some of us can walk away. Some can't. Sounds like your friend is the latter, and is going to be sent someplace tailor made for such types. I feel bad, I honestly do, because his friends and family are now going to lose an important part of their daily lives. However, this is the entire POINT of such consequences - to keep this type of sociopathic behavior from happening in the first place.

These kind of stupid fights are fucking childish. No matter what the reason, no matter who threw down first, there's no reason for this crap.

I feel bad for your friend. I doubt that one single event defines who is his, or what type of person he might be. However, I don't feel there should be no consequence for what he's done. BUT!!! I DO think that from the report, he didn't really hurt this kid badly. The kid didn't even want to go to the hospital. Therefore, especially if it's a first offense, I highly doubt there will be any jail time in his future.

Now it's your turn to answer questions:

How hard did you try to break up the fight?

Did you encourage this shit?

You think it was funny, when he kicked this kid's ass?

Most people pull this shit because they've got a posse full of ignorant friends egging them on that they'd like to impress. Next time, maybe you'll have enough sense to try to calm your friend down and talk him out of acting like a douche? Promise me that, and I'll even drop a few bucks into that paypal for you. That, to me, is justice.




toggletoggle post by Troll at May 17,2007 11:53pm
powerkok said:
They should arrest everyone at hardcore shows, just for going.


hahaha!!!



toggletoggle post by yummy at May 18,2007 12:03am
You must be on an all organic diet Arrowhead.
Bravo!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 18,2007 12:10am
internet toughguy said:
well, if you seriously wanted to help out your meat head friend, then why the hell did you post here? dip shit.


Once again, I have no stance on this at all. But a serious "lol" to the meathead comment because it's really really uninformed. Josh Hynes (unless I have the wrong kid in mind) is hardly a big dude, or even a notorious toughguy. In fact, he was in a posi band called Break It Up, if I remember correctly.



toggletoggle post by yummy at May 18,2007 12:16am
irony



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at May 18,2007 12:22am
well the thing is Josh is what 23?
he got into a fight with a 19 year old... hmm thats still an adult but still even if he did have "every right to do so" he still hit the kit and he should get reprimanded for it.
all things music based aside if it was somewhere else no one would really be defending him...
but what do i know.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead is logged in... NOT at May 18,2007 12:42am
yummy said:
You must be on an all organic diet Arrowhead.
Bravo!


Nah, I'm actually an enormous douchebag. Point is though, I do something stupid I expect to be held accountable. Don't you?



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at May 18,2007 11:50am
Troll said:
powerkok said:
They should arrest everyone at hardcore shows, just for going.


hahaha!!!


Best post in this thread.



toggletoggle post by anyonymous at May 18,2007 1:04pm
how come everyone posting in this thread i have never seen post elsewhere on this board? funny.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 18,2007 1:38pm
I actually put my camera down and walked right past the fight. I didn't even know what was up. some people rushed in as a band ended and then there was some slow motion fight. I just walked by it and went out side. There were a bunch of kids that I didn't know and don't think I've seen who rushed in and afterwards all of these people I didn't know were outside. some NH kids mouthed off to the owner manager guy and then the cops came and everyone took off.

that's all I saw.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 18,2007 1:56pm
also, having known josh for like 6-7 years, I really can't see him hitting someone with anything.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at May 18,2007 1:56pm
He hit me with a can of whoopie pies. Upside the head.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 18,2007 1:57pm
sweetest hit ever?



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at May 18,2007 1:59pm
I like whoopie pies.



toggletoggle post by jonnyrites NLI at May 18,2007 2:06pm
whoopie pies are ruining tech metal.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 18,2007 2:07pm edited May 18,2007 2:45pm
the_reverend said:
also, having known josh for like 6-7 years, I really can't see him hitting someone with anything.


I know his sister, and she claims the dude is totally a nice guy

She was really friendly too

So yeah, it is somewhat unbelievable, but I think the bigger issue is that "hardcore" (LOL) has become such a joke that this IS believable to have happened SOMEHOW...It's not music it's fucking 20,000,000 "bands" all dressing, talking, acting, writing lyrics, and performing alike to the same three styles of parts and then getting in huge fights.

I like hardcore but I don't go running up the ass of every new HC band cause it IS fucking trite as shit sometimes. It's more a clique (hence "MVHC HERO") then it is an innovation now.

so yeah, it sucks that Josh is in shit for something that he most likely didn't do, but that's what happens with this stupid fucking "hardcore" stuff these days with all the fighting and drama and shit.

That's what needs to change to ward off this stigma that gets nice dudes in trouble. No more fucking up clubs, no more BRUTAL BEATDOWNS, none of that shit. Just be real and human and write a meaningful song that might actually break the mold...



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at May 18,2007 2:07pm
It Will End In Pure Horror is the only hardcore band that has ever existed.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 18,2007 2:09pm
jesse rules, hands down. I've seen her cry at the end of shows more times then I can count because bands were breaking up.

fighting in general is bs.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at May 18,2007 2:11pm edited May 18,2007 8:07pm
Is she a QT with a boo-T?



toggletoggle post by yummy at May 18,2007 8:05pm
Yes, Arrowhead.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at May 18,2007 8:44pm
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

That's what needs to change to ward off this stigma that gets nice dudes in trouble. No more fucking up clubs, no more BRUTAL BEATDOWNS, none of that shit. Just be real and human and write a meaningful song that might actually break the mold...


its sad to say that with today's newest "hardcore" bands such as Emmure and other Acacia Strain style bands that this will never happen.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at May 18,2007 10:10pm
hahah what kind of knuckeheads fight at shows?




toggletoggle post by anyonymous at May 18,2007 11:19pm
josh was in drug test as well as break it up....far from the acacia strain style, one is posi and straight edge and the other is straight edge with some posi. but yup, before every breakdown he tells kids to dig graves for the kids next to them.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 18,2007 11:45pm
THIS JUST IN:

Josh is actually in legal trouble for -- all joking aside -- eating pizza at a hardcore show.

Apparently the dudes from Hammer Bros are pressing charges. Fucked up. Papa Gino is the prosecutor.



toggletoggle post by JimDeath at May 19,2007 3:32am
josh is in hammer bros... thanks.

and eating pizza at a hardcore show is awesome.

especially if you are at the show... watching the show.

not outside being indie.



toggletoggle post by kyle NlI at May 19,2007 3:56am
''not outside being indie''.....

I dont know what this means..but it took a lot of brain power.



toggletoggle post by pam   at May 19,2007 4:18am
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
THIS JUST IN:

Josh is actually in legal trouble for -- all joking aside -- eating pizza at a hardcore show.

Apparently the dudes from Hammer Bros are pressing charges. Fucked up. Papa Gino is the prosecutor.


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