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returntothepit >> discuss >> Will going back in time in microsoft help with a virus issue? by succubus on Jul 11,2007 3:58pm
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toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jul 11,2007 3:58pm
i'm trying to walk my sister in law through this over the phone but her computer is really slow and then it'll just freeze up.

any suggestions or ideas on what might work

TIA



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 11,2007 4:08pm
You need to get your PC up to 88mph.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jul 11,2007 4:08pm
dammit i was hoping for an actual answer
bboooo



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jul 11,2007 4:13pm
geeks2go can fix any problem.

She will need to download highjackthis and post a log on their forum.

They's helped me with everything.


Or you could delete the system 32 folder... = )



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 11,2007 4:17pm
Niccolai said:
Or you could delete the system 32 folder... = )


I knew you wouldn't let me down, young padawan.




toggletoggle post by sxealex aidz at Jul 11,2007 4:17pm
the new ubuntu is amazing. u dont have to know shit to install and use it.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jul 11,2007 4:20pm
DestroyYouAlot said:
You need to get your PC up to 88mph.


ha, i looked at this thread specifically for back to the future references.



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at Jul 11,2007 4:55pm
Swap out the flux capacitor



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jul 11,2007 6:27pm
i'm confuzzled



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 11,2007 6:41pm
I need to plug back in my ubuntu machine right now.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jul 11,2007 10:42pm
MOTHERFUCKERS TRYING TO PUT DOWN SYSTEM 32. I AM RANDOMLY TAKING THIS ON AS MY PERSONAL MOTHAFUCKIN HOLY WAR. OTHER IDLE THREATS INTIMATED ON THE INTERNET IN CAPS LOCK. ALSO, MUTHAFUCKA. ANY ALTERNATE SPELLINGS OF MATERNAL COITAL PREFERERS CAN BE ASSUMED IN THE FUTURE, MOMMYPOONTAPPER.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead is watching you at Jul 12,2007 12:51am
Spybot, Adaware, repeat, virus scan, then do what niccolai said.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 12,2007 8:08am
hijackthis is terrible for most people



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jul 12,2007 11:24am
i am going to call her back at 1pm today. i hope we can get her to to the adaware scan...the computer is super slow and gets to a ponit and it freezes...i didn't have much luck with her last night, hopefully today she'll tell me it's all set but we shall see



toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Jul 12,2007 11:47am
http://www.malwareremoval.com/

that's where i went, it's like a school for computer science kids. you tell them your problem and they walk you through fixing it. however, my problem was a virus that hijacked my desktop and gave me insane amounts of popups.

last time my computer had the freezing problem i had to crash it. but i'd check with that site before you did anything else.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead is watching you at Jul 12,2007 12:09pm
Random crashes can be a hardware issue as well, anything from a bad harddrive to memory.

Best bet is what I said. Run Spybot, then adaware. Then run them both again. Finally do a full virus scan. Afterwards if the problem persists download hijackthis and post a log at the site that niccolai mentioned. The people there will scan the log and see if anything looks out of place. If they find nothing, it's most likely a hardware issue.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Jul 12,2007 12:20pm
brian_dc said:
MOTHERFUCKERS TRYING TO PUT DOWN SYSTEM 32. I AM RANDOMLY TAKING THIS ON AS MY PERSONAL MOTHAFUCKIN HOLY WAR. OTHER IDLE THREATS INTIMATED ON THE INTERNET IN CAPS LOCK. ALSO, MUTHAFUCKA. ANY ALTERNATE SPELLINGS OF MATERNAL COITAL PREFERERS CAN BE ASSUMED IN THE FUTURE, MOMMYPOONTAPPER.


intense



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jul 12,2007 12:35pm
thanks arrowhead
i don't think they have spybot already installed though...and i don't think the PC can go online. argh!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 12,2007 12:41pm
succubus said:
thanks arrowhead
i don't think they have spybot already installed though...and i don't think the PC can go online. argh!


You should be able to burn spybot and a recent definition file to a CD.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jul 12,2007 12:47pm
or download them to a USB flash stick.

I have a stick that I have reserved for only the programs listed on the geekstogo.com website, to give you an idea of how frequently I'm stuck with cleaning friends' and family members' computers, and how effectively their method works.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead is watching you at Jul 12,2007 12:52pm
What Niccolai said. After they get the computer all fixed up, let them know how important it can be to always have a copy of spybot, adaware, hijackthis, anti-virus (like AVG free) on a disc, so if anything bad happens it's always nearby.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jul 12,2007 12:57pm edited Jul 12,2007 12:58pm
Also tell them to keep up with Microsoft security updates...

I can't tell you how many people are convinced that windows updates will destroy there computer and there's a big microsoft conspiracy to sneak viruses into updates...

an unpatched system that is never updated can be over run with spyware minutes after connecting to the internet.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead is watching you at Jul 12,2007 9:17pm
Niccolai said:
Also tell them to keep up with Microsoft security updates...

I can't tell you how many people are convinced that windows updates will destroy there computer and there's a big microsoft conspiracy to sneak viruses into updates...

an unpatched system that is never updated can be over run with spyware minutes after connecting to the internet.



Actually, that's the first thing Niccolai has said that I don't agree with. Unfortunately it's not a conspiracy, microsoft has got some useless and sketchy crap they've been throwing into their updates. My most stable system I ever had was a pirated copy of XP, thus never updated past service pack 1. NEVER had problems beyond the normal virus/spyware here or there. If you look closely, microsoft has started including a monthly "malware" update that allows them to "remove unwanted programs from your computer". This, unfortunately, allows them to go pretty far beyond spyware/malware. They can shut down unregistered or cracked apps, etc.... without you having any say in the matter. Personally, I skip this update and stick with the tried and true adaware/spybot combo.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jul 12,2007 10:26pm edited Jul 12,2007 10:26pm
ok so she caleld me and said that after trying 10 times they were able to go back in time and it was ok...

my niece is online and i get this IM:
haha check my ass http: //likemyass.net/ass_pic31 .exe

so they still have a virus...she's away from the computer but i messaged her telling her that



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jul 12,2007 10:27pm
edited url because i don't want anyone clicking and getting the virus



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 12,2007 10:35pm
I just got this from MSN:

[07/12/2007-22:22:33] .(*). I'm juste going to say... Whatever..: haha check my ass :P http:// likemyass.net/ass_pic31.exe
[07/12/2007-22:24:35] *** ".(*). I'm juste going to say... Whatever.." signed off at Thu Jul 12 22:24:35 2007.


and dont' your nieces know better?



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jul 12,2007 10:41pm
it's messaging us because we're on her buddy list
i'll call them again tomorrow



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jul 12,2007 11:05pm
ArrowHead is watching you said:
Niccolai said:
Also tell them to keep up with Microsoft security updates...

I can't tell you how many people are convinced that windows updates will destroy there computer and there's a big microsoft conspiracy to sneak viruses into updates...

an unpatched system that is never updated can be over run with spyware minutes after connecting to the internet.



Actually, that's the first thing Niccolai has said that I don't agree with. Unfortunately it's not a conspiracy, microsoft has got some useless and sketchy crap they've been throwing into their updates. My most stable system I ever had was a pirated copy of XP, thus never updated past service pack 1. NEVER had problems beyond the normal virus/spyware here or there. If you look closely, microsoft has started including a monthly "malware" update that allows them to "remove unwanted programs from your computer". This, unfortunately, allows them to go pretty far beyond spyware/malware. They can shut down unregistered or cracked apps, etc.... without you having any say in the matter. Personally, I skip this update and stick with the tried and true adaware/spybot combo.



I should have been more specific. Windows updating in general does do stuff beyond patching, but I don't give anything that's not a specific exe patch the time of day.

I always hit custom update on the update screen and pretty much only install vulnerability patches for svchost and lsass. As far as my experience goes, an unpatched Lsass.exe is the biggest fucking pain in the ass that windows has ever had.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jul 12,2007 11:08pm
Niccolai said:
I should have been more specific. Windows updating in general does do stuff beyond patching, but I don't give anything that's not a specific exe patch the time of day.


Yeah, but John Q. User doesn't know what the fuck that means.



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