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returntothepit >> discuss >> More cities cracking down on saggy pants by IMMOLATION on Sep 16,2007 11:54pm
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toggletoggle post by IMMOLATION at Sep 16,2007 11:54pm
TRENTON, N.J. - It's a fashion that started in prison, and now the saggy pants craze has come full circle — low-slung street strutting in some cities may soon mean run-ins with the law, including a stint in jail.

Proposals to ban saggy pants are starting to ride up in several places. At the extreme end, wearing pants low enough to show boxers or bare buttocks in one small Louisiana town means six months in jail and a $500 fine. A crackdown also is being pushed in Atlanta. And in Trenton, getting caught with your pants down may soon result in not only a fine, but a city worker assessing where your life is headed.

"Are they employed? Do they have a high school diploma? It's a wonderful way to redirect at that point," said Trenton Councilwoman Annette Lartigue, who is drafting a law to outlaw saggy pants. "The message is clear: We don't want to see your backside."

The bare-your-britches fashion is believed to have started in prisons, where inmates aren't given belts with their baggy uniform pants to prevent hangings and beatings. By the late 80s, the trend had made it to gangster rap videos, then went on to skateboarders in the suburbs and high school hallways.

"For young people, it's a form of rebellion and identity," Adrian "Easy A.D." Harris, 43, a founding member of the Bronx's legendary rap group Cold Crush Brothers. "The young people think it's fashionable. They don't think it's negative."

But for those who want to stop them see it as an indecent, sloppy trend that is a bad influence on children.

"It has the potential to catch on with elementary school kids, and we want to stop it before it gets there," said C.T. Martin, an Atlanta councilman. "Teachers have raised questions about what a distraction it is."

In Atlanta, a law has been introduced to ban sagging and punishment could include small fines or community work — but no jail time, Martin said.

The penalty is stiffer in Delcambre, La., where in June the town council passed an ordinance that carries a fine of up to $500 or six months in jail for exposing underwear in public. Several other municipalities and parish governments in Louisiana have enacted similar laws in recent months.

At Trenton hip-hop clothing store Razor Sharp Clothing Shop 4 Ballers, shopper Mark Wise, 30, said his jeans sag for practical reasons.

"The reason I don't wear tight pants is because it's easier to get money out of my pocket this way," Wise said. "It's just more comfortable."

Shop owner Mack Murray said Trenton's proposed ordinance unfairly targets blacks.

"Are they going to go after construction workers and plumbers, because their pants sag, too?" Murray asked. "They're stereotyping us."

The American Civil Liberties Union agrees.

"In Atlanta, we see this as racial profiling," said Benetta Standly, statewide organizer for the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. "It's going to target African-American male youths. There's a fear with people associating the way you dress with crimes being committed."



toggletoggle post by IMMOLATION at Sep 16,2007 11:55pm
About time if you ask me



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 16,2007 11:56pm
I hope they still allow them to bunch up on the package. nothing better than dudes with their pants all bunched up on their package, eh?



toggletoggle post by IMMOLATION at Sep 16,2007 11:59pm
Really, there must be something wrong with you if you think showing your underwear is cool



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 17,2007 12:02am
that's not what I said.
bunched up so you see the package, not down so you see the underwear.
that's gay.



toggletoggle post by IMMOLATION at Sep 17,2007 12:04am
the_reverend said:
that's not what I said.
bunched up so you see the package, not down so you see the underwear.
that's gay.

I know that's not what you said, i said that in general




toggletoggle post by fishcakes at Sep 17,2007 12:13am
we need this law to pass in New Bedford.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Sep 17,2007 12:23am
Yeah, it's totally cool that they're passing a law against baggy pants! Next they should pass a law against having long hair and wearing metal shirts! Wouldn't that be cool too? Oh wait.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Sep 17,2007 1:28am
Lamp said:
Next they should pass a law against having long hair and wearing metal shirts! Wouldn't that be cool too?


Yep.



toggletoggle post by fishcakes at Sep 17,2007 1:35am
totaly!



toggletoggle post by Dwellingsickness at Sep 17,2007 1:58am
At the show I went to in Gilford last night, There were a bunch of baggy pants wearing kids trying to mosh during Supplication's set. They were all like family members or something. One of them mentioned to me that he was not into the music,He was just there supporting his "cuz".



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Sep 17,2007 2:16am
im bringin back HUGE jncos. HUGE!



toggletoggle post by Dwellingsickness at Sep 17,2007 3:02am
I can picture that



toggletoggle post by IMMOLATION at Sep 17,2007 10:33am
Lamp said:
Yeah, it's totally cool that they're passing a law against baggy pants! Next they should pass a law against having long hair and wearing metal shirts! Wouldn't that be cool too? Oh wait.

Do you wear baggy pants?




toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Sep 17,2007 10:43am
There shouldn't be a law against wigger attire. However it should be lawful to beat the shit out of wiggers.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Sep 17,2007 10:44am
this is fucking bogus. what next? laws like this are one more step to a total censorship mechanism. its always covered up by "oh its just this one thing", yeah and next its "just one more thing". i hope that there is a giant revolt against this. i don't care for baggy pants, but if you want to wear them its your fucking right to do so.



toggletoggle post by rilly at Sep 17,2007 10:54am
niggers are useless. i mean blak people



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Sep 17,2007 1:02pm
I'm gonna get a pair of Jncos so big that me and a friend can wear'em to shows. We'll be best friends forever.

This law = legal AIDS, BTW.



toggletoggle post by fishcakes at Sep 17,2007 1:23pm
it's not against baggy pants, it's about having the waste around your knees. fucking gay shit!



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Sep 17,2007 1:51pm
NIGGERS



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Sep 17,2007 5:03pm
sacreligion said:
im bringin back HUGE jncos. HUGE!


I miss Jnco jeans; I used to have a couple of pairs in middle school, now I can't find them anymore. They were comfortable as hell!



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Sep 17,2007 6:26pm
IMMOLATION said:
Do you wear baggy pants?


No, I wear regular pants. But who the hell cares what people wear?



toggletoggle post by NIGGER  at Sep 17,2007 9:26pm
THAT IS TOTALLY FUCKING RACIST

IF YOU HAVE WASTE AROUND YOUR KNEES, YOU ARE NOT BLACK

BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST RETARDS COVERED IN POO

RACIST WHITE PEOPLE!




toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Sep 17,2007 9:30pm
hopefully they out law girls jeans on guys.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Sep 18,2007 12:28am
if sagging is illegal who will you laugh at?



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Sep 18,2007 1:05am
sxealex said:
if sagging is illegal who will you laugh at?


black people still.



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