The documentary was great, as usual, the crowd wasn't. It was filled with people I sadly see often and yet when I see them under different, "unblack metal settings", they are always up for a chat, but, as soon as theres a "black metal gathering', they forget you are the one that buys cds from their store or that you are the one that suggested music to them or that they have even suggested music to you and had some interesting conversations. They are PHONY. This is why, "Metal", is worthless. This is why these people are worthless. I hope they wake up and change because if they were to step back and look at themselves they would laugh at the fact that they are clowns and fools, and metal jock losers. Lets not forget the elitist hippies, and the avant garde, elitist, conner dwellers...I hate people you chat with that end their sentences with, no no no but, or your wrong this is why, or no this is why, or you got it all wrong, or your dont know what your talking about, or your not looking at it right...
i was there in secret regular attire and it was good . Water , what are you talking about ? If you hate people so much why did you go ?
post by Water at Jul 12,2009 9:50am
I am looking at it right and I know a loser and/or poser when they are losing and/or posing. People need to stop ruining things and start ruining themselves rather and the world that I live in will be easier to deal with.
post by BILLY "BARON MIGHTY PUTTY" MAYS at Jul 12,2009 10:22am
I am looking at it right and I know a loser and/or poser when they are losing and/or posing. People need to stop ruining things and start ruining themselves rather and the world that I live in will be easier to deal with.
FUCK YOU. I WORE A PUNKY BREWSTER SHIRT AND MULTICOLORED CROCS.
The documentary was great, as usual, the crowd wasn't. It was filled with people I sadly see often and yet when I see them under different, "unblack metal settings", they are always up for a chat, but, as soon as theres a "black metal gathering', they forget you are the one that buys cds from their store or that you are the one that suggested music to them or that they have even suggested music to you and had some interesting conversations. They are PHONY. This is why, "Metal", is worthless. This is why these people are worthless.
Are these poseurs, hipsters, or scenesters?
Seems like most people -- except hardcore realists -- are totally PHONY, to use the word you and Holden Caulfield seem to share enjoyment of.
on a wide scale, the lack of individualism in the black metal crowd is staggering, hence why I'd rather choose to be secluded. the term 'poser' has different meanings if you ask me. it's used a great deal when it comes to blackmetal only because it's considered unorthodox when someone goes against what is considered the norm.
I think the people who have no individualism or free thought are the posers. that's why I've always had an open mind when it comes to music, not like the fucking stuck-up snobby cunts that make up 75% of the black metal scene.
I don't really concern myself with the snobby black metal turds. Truth be told, I can't really say any of the black metal fans I know are of the unholier-than-thou persuasion... but when I do come across such a faggot nigger, I like to mock and/or spill my drink on them and laugh as my band(s) is (are) quite likely better than theirs.
A lot of the NE black metal fans are cool shits. I don't know all of them, but a lot of the ones I do know I've never had problems with. But over the years I've come across a few in this area, NYC, even when I was in MN at the heathen crusade that were twats. most of them just flock to black metal message boards..
I don't really concern myself with the snobby black metal turds
People fucking hate us (ANUS) because while we are quality elitists, we're not trend elitists. E.g. that new 7" from the guy who used to polish the testicles of Les Legions Noires is not "automatically" more important than some band from the suburbs with more gut, heart and brains than polish.
That pisses people off, and they always end up saying "I thought you were elitists?" Yeah, but that means you demand quality not... trend-whoring preeminence.
i don't know if i have any faith in seeing this. i don't believe half of Lords of Chaos to begin with.
That's what's great about it though. If you don't believe one of Varg's stories he's got 5 other versions of them for you to take your pick.
post by WATER at Jul 13,2009 12:43pm
Metal Jock = Asshole that tries to police music, especially, "Metal"...
Poser = Someone posing as an elitist, when they are just human like the rest of them. To call one a poser is to infer they are trying to be better than others with similar interest...
post by Super flying V at Jul 13,2009 12:52pm
Water is the poser he be talkin' trash and such . Ishould have busted out my my super flying V and made everyone cry with my super flyin' V solo . I'm still better , my guitar is better , i make more money than you , my neighbor is quieter , my girlfriend is more better , and i'm just all around better .
Yeah, I'd say that this genre would benefit from life-sentence incarcerations, exiles and executions.
I see black metal being thoroughly oversaturated with pure shit within a year's time.
Death metal 1992 all over again.
post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 13,2009 2:07pm edited Jul 13,2009 2:08pm
whenever i hear/read the word "poser" or more correctly spelled "poseur" i automatically think of the immature attitudes of junior high school children.
whenever i hear/read the word "poser" or more correctly spelled "poseur" i automatically think of the immature attitudes of junior high school children.
WHATEVER THE FUCK BLACK METAL ARE IT AM DEAD FOR YEARS CUZ OF STUPID PRICKS THAT BUY NEW SHIT THAT SOUNDS LIKE TRASH. UNINSPIRED FUCKING GARBAGE -CREATED BY SONY TO FIGHT AGAINST TEH LEGIONS OF SATAN. FUCK NUBLACKWAVEHIPSTERMETAL SHIT
ITS FUCKING NAZI SPACE INVADERS GET YOUR SHWARTIKA AWAY FROM ME DIEBURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▄▀▄░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
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post by SHITFORBAG at Jul 13,2009 8:48pm
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post by SHITFORBAG at Jul 13,2009 9:06pm
oh ye3ah FUCK METAL UR ALL A BUNCH OF SHIT WHO CANT KNOW GOOD MUSIC. CHIC KOREA = FUCKING WIN ALL UR SHIT SOUNDS THE SAME AND YOU DONT WANT TO FUCKING FACE IT UNTALENTED HAX
MESSAGE TO DUMB FUCKS WHO RUN AROUND IN CIRCLES AND JERK OFF TO HATEBREED/JAZZ/FUSION/METALEXPERIMENTAL SHIT
Rip the sacred flesh Sodomize the holy asshole Drink the red blood of the mother of earth Masturbation on the dead body of christ The king of Jews is dead and so are the lies Vomit on the host of Heaven Masturbate on the throne of God Break the seals of angels Drink the sweet blood of Christ Taste the flesh of the priest Sodomize holy nuns The king of Jews is a liar The Heavens will burn Dethrone the son of God God is dead Holyness is gone Purity is gone Prayers are burned Covered in black shit Rape the holy ghost Unclean birth of Jesus Christ Heaven will fall Fuck the church Fuck Christ Fuck the Virgin Fuck the gods of Heaven Fuck the name of Jesus
I Was at the showing the other day and I have to say that besides the stench coming from the patrons it was pretty good. OP is right tho- when people are trying to sell you shit they'll be your best friend but when you see them on the street it is best to avoid them at all costs as they are likely douche bags anyway.
"Until the Light Takes Us," a black metal documentary
Interview with filmmakers Audrey Ewell and Aaron Aites
"The film is about black metal, but we also deal with wider issues and it is relevant to the larger culture, not just fans of the genre. I am a filmmaker before I'm a fan, and a person before I'm a filmmaker, so there are a few masters that I serve when I make something. This is a communication between us and the world."
"In 1991, Norwegian churches started to burn, just after an underground circle of metal musicians had formed. While reporters and police scrambled for answers, more and more churches went up in flames. They had no leads until Varg Vikernes, one of the architects of an underground music-art-political scene known as BLACK MEAL took credit and was quickly arrested. While he was in police custody, the media ran a largely fabricated story of satanic rituals, abductions and sacrifices. This film reveals the true story behind the music, murders and church burnings, and shows what happened when these young men, who tried to change the world using music, art and violence, found that they could not control what they had created."
There's some bad news for black metal -- the new "Lords of Chaos" movie is going to use hip-hop instead of black metal. Poke around the website and you'll see.
K, first up, we love Chicago. Great town, GREAT crowd, thank you all for coming and for being such a great audience! HUGE thanks to those who helped us get the word out there. Despite being loopy from a cold, it was a very fun Q & A and we really enjoyed it. (P.S. we don't always.) I know there were many people who didn't get in: we're going to try to bring it back for you.
Just like San Francisco: We managed that one, the film starts a weeklong run July 31 at the Roxie Theater in SF. I really hope all you who didn't get to see it at YBCA will be able to catch one of these screenings. And having said that: this WOULD NOT have been possible had so many of you not supported the film at Yerba Buena. A million thanks. And then some. Please help us get the word out if you can - it's really tough with so little notice. Thank you!
More screenings coming: In addition to the list below, we are working on lots more. We have A TON going on here, working like mad to get as much done as we can. We've started working with Variance Releasing, they are not only awesome people, they can and will bring the film to a lot more places than we could on our own.
We REALLY need promo help in Tucson, Albuquerque, Chapel Hill, and Philadephia. Can anyone help flyer there?
A final note: this myspace page is fairly nonfunctional. We can't send messages (well, we can, but they go straight to you spam box) so please write us at untilfilm@gmail.com for anything. That's also the mailing list address, someday I will figure out how to make a real mailing list that I don't have to manually manage. For now, no time to work that out!
Screenings:
*NEW* San Francisco, July 31 - Aug 6
Daily at 9:10 pm, Sat/Sun matinees at 4:40
http://www.roxie.com Roxie Theater - 3117 16th St.
Boston, Aug 1st, 7:30 pm
The Brattle Theater
40 Brattle St., Harvard Square, Cambridge
http://www.brattlefilm.org/brattlefilm/movie_detail/090801.html
Houston, Aug 7th, 8:30 pm
Domy Books
http://www.domystore.com
Atlanta - Aug 13
Plaza Theater, 7:30 pm
www.plazaatlanta.com
Tickets: http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/69162
Albuquerque, August 14 & 15, 10:30 pm
Guild Cinema – 3405 Central Ave., NE
www.guildcinema.com
*advance tickets available at Charley's 33s & CDs, call (505)296-3685, cash only
Chapel Hill, August 20th 9:30 pm
Nighlight Arts Space
www.nightlightclub.com
Tucson, Aug 26, 8pm
The Loft Cinema
www.loftcinema.com
Philadelphia, Sept 2, 7:30 pm
Ibrahim Theater at International House
www.ihousephilly.org
Minneapolis, MN - Sound Unseen Festival - Oct 2 or 3rd, date TBA
All special engagement screenings have sold out, big thanks to all who have come. If you're planning on going to an upcoming screening, you might want to get advance tickets where available.
International:
Athens, late Sept, details TBA
London, Early October, Raindance Film Festival with special event, DATE TBA
Kortrijk, Belgium, Buda Arts Centre/Arthouse October 9th www. budakortrijk.be
Lausanne, Switzerland - mid October, DATE TBA
Krakow, Poland: Unsound Festival, late October, DATE TBA
more in the works (including Canada and others!)
Australia TBA
Please let us know if you can be part of the street team in your city. Help with flyering, posting on forums, making your friends go! Street teams are put on the guest list for their city. We need help in Tucson, Albuquerque, Philadelphia, and Chapel Hill - please write us at gmail if you want to be involved!
Until the Light Takes Us tells the story of black metal. Part music scene and part cultural uprising, black metal rose to worldwide notoriety in the mid-nineties with a rash of suicides, murders, and church burnings.
The documentary goes behind the highly sensationalized media reports of "Satanists running amok in Europe" to examine the complex and largely misunderstood principles that led to this rebellion against both Christianity and modern culture.
he result is a poignant, moving story that's as much about the idea that reality is composed of whatever the most people believe, regardless of what's actually true, as it is a music scene that blazed a path of murder and arson across the northern sky.
hahahaa...aril this isn't a typical documentary. i'd say it's more of an art film than anything, without any other label that would be attached to something like that. i think if there was one definition of "black metal" in history, then this film is that definition...i really think everybody should see it. it was MUCH different than i could have possibly expected.
i just read the interview and i have a huge respect for these filmmakers. the quality of this work is rare these days and that helps to capture the essence of what this film was about which is more than just "black metal"...
http://www.anus.com/metal/about/interviews/until_the_light_takes_us/
Lords of Chaos gives an overview of the situation, but it's horribly biased and the journalism is laughable at best. It was a great gateway to the under story of this genre, but you have to do your own research, as i said it's horribly biased. and if you didn't know about the bands before the book, then piss off.