http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds..._bases/2009/07/report_ortiz_ra.html

BEEN SAYING TIHS FOR YEARS!

whos gives a fuck? let them do as much juice as they want. I want to see homers, if that means kidney problems and man tits for the players then so be it. Big Pappi Is still a faggot either way.

the saddest part about this is that i'm not even remotely surprised

Dude went from hitting 50+ homers to hitting nothing.

The biggest concern for most Sox fans is whether or not the 2004 Championship team was tainted, which clearly it was.
But, that's not saying the other teams aren't..

Not even remotely suprising.

Ortiz went from raining homers down on the Pike to barely making it out of the yard...or the infield for that matter.

Not to mention his visibly dramatic decrease in size/weight. And people wonder why the number of kids moving from baseball to other sports is increasing so much. Fuckin sad man.

When it comes to baseball, the records are held sacred. It's an historic game and now that people are juicing, it's like a slap in the face to the legends of old: Ted Williams, Babe Ruth (dude ate hot dogs and beer all the time), Willie Mays, etc.

the fallout from this is going to be epicly shitty.

I understand. I just saw dude on the daily show or colbert, who wrote a book about steroids in the mlb. He said that players back in the day would use things like monkey testasterone

Now i'm starting to think that because of Manny, he sucked so bad in the beginning of the season because he was worried that they were on to him.

not to mention how vocal he was about his opposition to juicing. "lemme tell you sometin man, i canuh get tested anyatime."

i'm with you. it's a slap in the face to guys like teddy ballgame and joltin joe and the rest who played the game right and sacrificed their careers and lives to go to war.

anytime i mention roids to my dad, he says he thinks it's prevalent in all major sports and that players in the old days were doing it too.

people have been looking for competative advantages for hundreds of years. the ancient mayans chewed cocoa leaves during their ballsport games - gave them a little caffeine edge.

Boston Roid Sux

MLB is extremely gay IMO. Baseball itself however is awesome.

MLB is one fucked up corrupt corporation.

Paid for by die hard fans.

The greatest playoff series ever played (known better as the 04 ALCS) featured at least 4 or 5 guys on the Yankees that were juicing. Works for me.

i agree that it was an even playing field since every team had roiders, but it's a slap in the face to the players of past eras who didn't roid up.

my response to this is a resounding NO SHIT. steroids are a part of the game now, just like relief pitchers in the 60's and the DH rule in the 70's.

i agree totally, which is why i hate when sports fans complain that athletes are "way overpaid"

Baseball would have become a pitchers paradise without the juice, its needed as much as beer on a metal show, agree????

I can't say I'm surprised but I'm still a little bummed.

Id take steroids all day if I was a baseball player but thats just me.

They should just make them legal in MLB now, imagine the roid rage on the field during a bench clearing brawl. The ballparks will fill up with attendance since that shit would happen all the time

I don't give a shit how many roids the Red Sox shot up in 04 or 07, they were better at doing drugs and playing ball than all the other faggots in the game.

Suck a dick St. Louis, Colorado, Los Angeles of Anaheim (go back for seconds you slap hitting homos), New York and Cleveland.

First juicer in baseball: Mr.October..how ya like them apples?

I want them to release the other 98 names on that fucking list.
The Roid Sox are already saying that the lawyer that released this report is a huge Yankee fan haha

Some shitty Jew lawyer is a yankees fan? No wai!

they were saying on SportsCenter this morning that some players back in 03 may have agreed to have their name on this list to ensure that testing will be implemented, even though they have tested positive for anything

Interesting. I don't think that applies to Ortiz though. I mean, the dude went from an average player who backed up Jeremy Giambi, to a dude who hit 54 HRs in 3 years. Is that possible?

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds.../gallery/2009/07_30_09_ortiz_years/

check out the first picture. dude was a twig

The idea that maybe Papi was holding back at the beginning of the season makes sense, cause steroids don't affect your ability to SEE the ball/time your swing, as far as I know. That's why Bonds, as much of a scumshit as he is, was still pretty incredible. You just can't DO that that often.

You can find quotes of myself and Jim saying this throughout the years on this site!

This report was leaked by the NY Times, right? YANKEES SUCK

Get Papi out of here. He is fucking useless. No glove, can't run and can't even advance runners in scoring position with fly balls. FUCK YOU, HACK.

Steroids don't do anything to you if you don't hit the ball. Plus, do any of you realize how much time these guys spend working out? It's not just the steroids, they have to have rigorous weight training programs to stay in shape to play baseball for as long as they do.

Steroids inadvertently affect the game, MortalKombat. In the case of Ortiz, because his stats were elevated, pitchers were afraid to throw to him. This means that the amount of walks went up, the chances of him getting a hit goes up because of an increase of walks, and his average and OBP skyrocket. This explains why he was batted in the .330s in his "prime."

But agreed, you still have to hit the ball. But statistically speaking, you get more chances because of the fear connected to the power that the STEROIDS assist in.

now Bronson ArROIDo is coming clean

yup. which is a reason why, no matter how you feel about steroids, that once youve juiced, anything you do has been aided by roids

I see what you did there. Clever. A+.