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returntothepit >> discuss >> PC Gamer top 100 by arktouros on Dec 17,2009 4:28pm
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toggletoggle post by arktouros at Dec 17,2009 4:28pm
1. Deus Ex
2. Half-Life 2
3. Team Fortress 2
4. Half-Life
5. Rome: Total War
6. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
7. Fallout
8. Planescape: Torment
9. Thief II: The Metal Age
10. Fallout 3

http://www.pcgamertop100.com/editorial/10-1

nice. i would have switched some things around moving down the list, but the top 10 is solid.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 4:33pm
Horrible order.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 4:34pm
Deus Ex is not the greatest pc game ever. it's no wonder why I switched to pc games/pc accelerator when pc gamer started to suck. I still have all their old mags and demo discs.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 4:38pm
How dare they put hl2 and tf2 above halflife. What a joke. They'll be getting an angry letter to the editor.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 4:46pm
This list is a disgrace



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 4:50pm
absolute garbage. This site needs to be hacked



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 4:51pm
this is the worst order of games in the history of ordering games



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 4:53pm
system shock 2 in the top 20 is the only positive thing so far.

everytime I click the next list, I'm shaking my head. This is pure shit



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 4:55pm
this list has to be the biggest disgrace in pc gaming history



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 4:56pm edited Dec 17,2009 4:59pm
thanks for ruining the holidays for me, ark.



toggletoggle post by ark at Dec 17,2009 5:04pm
LOL, Deus Ex doesn't even run on your machine...you're arrested



toggletoggle post by ark at Dec 17,2009 5:05pm
i'm still LOLing at the conversation with yourself



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 5:05pm
I was replaying it a few months ago. it sure does.



toggletoggle post by ark at Dec 17,2009 5:10pm
on your VOODOO3?

i do want to get into a scholarly argument about how HL2 and TF2 are better but since i just got home, i'm gonna smoke a bowl and fire up TF2 and see how long i can keep my window open before my snot freezes to my face



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 17,2009 5:44pm
I've got a geforce2 mx 64 mb.

Hl2 ain't in the top 20 on my list



toggletoggle post by spaldino at Dec 17,2009 6:57pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
this is the worst order of games in the history of ordering games



you didnt see the recent Game Informer top 200 games of all time list then, did you?



toggletoggle post by martins   at Dec 17,2009 7:22pm
Lol this is one of the funniest threads I've ever read



toggletoggle post by cormier nli at Dec 17,2009 8:15pm
why the fuck is TF2 on there? that shit is an abomination to all compettitive gamerrs out there.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 12:36am
This thread put me into a deep depression.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Dec 18,2009 12:39am edited Dec 18,2009 12:41am
that list is dogshit. i wouldnt put a single one of those in the top 10. fallout 2 would be on my list, but not 3

edit: actually half life definitly deserves it



toggletoggle post by ark at Dec 18,2009 7:34am
cormier%20nli said[orig][quote]
why the fuck is TF2 on there? that shit is an abomination to all compettitive gamerrs out there.


explain - is it the critical hits and medics?
either way the game is as competitive as i want to get, i don't need more twitchy douchebags yelling in their mics.



toggletoggle post by ark at Dec 18,2009 7:35am
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
edit: actually half life definitly deserves it


smart man, that's probably the only part of this list that isn't debatable.



toggletoggle post by ark at Dec 18,2009 7:37am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
This thread put me into a deep depression.





toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 8:14am

1. Deus Ex (good game, but deserves to be on the list much lower.)
2. Half-Life 2 (give me a break. This game was overhyped. The source engine was talked about for years, yet when doom III came out, it had more fluid gameplay)
3. Team Fortress 2 (what are you smoking crack?)
4. Half-Life (deserves to be 1-3)
5. Rome: Total War (Rome: total garbage. out of all the games like this they pick this one? Fuck that)
6. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (morrowind and daggerfall were better. this game rehashed old ideas and made them better looking. it had ridiculous exploits too - the worst being baiting that lady of the cave, making her run into the lake to drown, and stealing her armor which happens to be one of the best in the game)
7. Fallout (meeeh. top 30, not top 10)
8. Planescape: Torment (yea ok. give me a fucking break)
9. Thief II: The Metal Age (move this shit down to 50 and call it a day)
10. Fallout 3 (your arrested)



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Dec 18,2009 9:22am
ok here's mine, i'm stringing some series together, and NOT thinking to hard about it -

1. Half-Life 2, mods
2. Half-Life, mods
3. Starcraft
4. Deus Ex
5. Baldur's Gate 2
6. Fallout series
7. System Shock 2
8. Quake series
9. Unreal series
10. Team Fortress 2

(no love for adventure games in my top 10 i guess)

i agree with you on everything else except Planescape: Torment, Thief 2 and Fallout 3, those would be high up.



toggletoggle post by spaldino at Dec 18,2009 9:26am
1. SCI FI FPS
2. WWII FPS
3. MEDIEVAL FPS
4. MODERN DAY FPS
5. HORROR SCI FI FPS
6. FPS
7. FPS
8. WWII FPS
9. SCI FI FPS
10. FANTASY FPS

HEY GUYS I HAVE DIVERSITY IN MY GAME SELECTIONS



toggletoggle post by Jimbo NLI at Dec 18,2009 9:29am
ITT: A Jim getting mad about nothing.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Dec 18,2009 9:34am
he's really not though, remember he's never serious on RTTP...



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 9:37am
yea I could really care less about this list in all honesty.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 9:39am
however that being said, I do disagree with about 99% of it. But that's all good, everyone has their opinions.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Dec 18,2009 9:40am
i don't care what PC Gamer thinks the top 100 games are either, my point in posting this was PC gaming was great back in the day and there's nothing wrong with it today imo.

mostly posted to spite you though, especially since they put TF2 in 3rd place!



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Dec 18,2009 9:42am
and you don't have to get smiley with me, mister.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 9:47am
no, thanks for posting it. It was a great laugh. I can't believe they (and you) hold hl2 in high regard. that was a major disappointment, except near the end.
I only believe that though because I loves how the majority of hl1 was underground in a base. I think hl2 was mostly just a shoddy followup that showed off the new source engine. The game would have been a lot better if it had more indoor action. not sure why, but I prefer my fps games in closed environments, usually.



toggletoggle post by SLAG NLI BURNED OUT NEED A VACA at Dec 18,2009 10:07am
The PCGamer list has to be one of the worst lists i've ever seen.

This is only my personal list.. not an opinionated one


1. Half life 2 ( most fun i've ever had playing a game)
2. Ultima VI / VII / VIII
3. Wing Commander Series
4. X-wing vs Tie fighter
5. Half life
6. Diablo I/II
7. Morrowwind/ Oblivion
8. Space Quest / King's Quest
9. Quake 1
10. Unreal / Unreal Tournament and mods


Honorable mention : Wizardry 8, Max Payne, Deus Ex, Doom 1, Ultima Online, Warcraft Series, Call of Duty 4, Counterstrike, TF2, Baldurs Gate 1+2 .... im sure there is a ton more i'm forgetting



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Dec 18,2009 10:12am edited Dec 18,2009 10:13am
SLAG%20NLI%20BURNED%20OUT%20NEED%20A%20VACA said[orig][quote]
The PCGamer list has to be one of the worst lists i've ever seen.

This is only my personal list.. not an opinionated one


1. Half life 2 ( most fun i've ever had playing a game)
2. Ultima VI / VII / VIII
3. Wing Commander Series
4. X-wing vs Tie fighter
5. Half life
6. Diablo I/II
7. Morrowwind/ Oblivion
8. Space Quest / King's Quest
9. Quake 1
10. Unreal / Unreal Tournament and mods


Honorable mention : Wizardry 8, Max Payne, Deus Ex, Doom 1, Ultima Online, Warcraft Series, Call of Duty 4, Counterstrike, TF2, Baldurs Gate 1+2 .... im sure there is a ton more i'm forgetting



i need to converse with you more often. thats a good list and excellent honorable mentions with the exception of TF2(i'll always be a HL1 mod fan over HL2 mods even though I play both)



toggletoggle post by SLAG NLI HELP ME at Dec 18,2009 10:17am
I just very recently got sucked into TF2. While I feel it takes a bit less skill than say .. counterstrike... (and keep in mind, i somehow avoided TF1) .. its polished as hell and valve really has something going with the personalities that each class has, extra weapons (i.e more strategies) and the sense of community that the game has with it. I don't feel terrible or mind numb everytime I play TF2. Imo, it's a great game.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 10:21am
Was age of wonders on the list!?!?

That would be my top.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Dec 18,2009 10:25am edited Dec 18,2009 10:26am
SLAG%20NLI%20HELP%20ME said[orig][quote]
I just very recently got sucked into TF2. While I feel it takes a bit less skill than say .. counterstrike... (and keep in mind, i somehow avoided TF1) .. its polished as hell and valve really has something going with the personalities that each class has, extra weapons (i.e more strategies) and the sense of community that the game has with it. I don't feel terrible or mind numb everytime I play TF2. Imo, it's a great game.



Its a fun game definitely. I just hate the community. Everywhere its all about getting the highest individual points and/or getting the stupid hats. I hear more mic chatter about those god damn hats that do nothing than I do actual strat calls hahaha. Beyond that the game is playable albeit easily. Thats another gripe I have with the source mods compared to the HL1 mods is the fact that the source games are waaaay easier to be good at than the HL1 mods. They went from easily to learn but hard as fuck to master with TFC/cs 1.6 to even EASIER to learn and easy to master with TF2/CS:S/DoD:S virtually eliminating the skill gap.

The latter gripe is kind of bias as the every day player probably doesn't give two shits about competitive play. Thats just what I enjoy out of my FPS. Yea pubbing is hella fun but I get more enjoyment in 5v5 scrims and matches, coming up with strats and using them to win.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Dec 18,2009 10:25am
good list.

i forgot sid meier games. alpha centauri, civ series...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 18,2009 10:28am
arktouros said[orig][quote]
1. Deus Ex
2. Half-Life 2
3. Team Fortress 2
4. Half-Life
5. Rome: Total War
6. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
7. Fallout
8. Planescape: Torment
9. Thief II: The Metal Age
10. Fallout 3

http://www.pcgamertop100.com/editorial/10-1

nice. i would have switched some things around moving down the list, but the top 10 is solid.
I played 1 of those games.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 10:30am
I wish I was at a computer and not a phone. I'd list my top 50.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 18,2009 10:31am
carmageddon ftw!



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Dec 18,2009 10:33am
Torin's Passage



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 10:35am
Carmageddon gets a nod in my top 20.

The dig too.



toggletoggle post by SLAG NLI HELP ME at Dec 18,2009 10:36am
forgot about KOTOR 1+2, Sam and Max (OG) and Day of the Tentacle (almost any lucasarts game in the early and middle 90's), Thief 1 (it was really the first sneak around game I played and had loads of atmosphere), Crusader : No remorse



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 10:37am
Props for Lucas arts in the mid 90s. The dig, what I just mentioned is one of those.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Dec 18,2009 10:38am
no diablo or starwars x-wing



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 18,2009 10:39am
diablo II is in there



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Dec 18,2009 10:39am
in top ten thats bs



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Dec 18,2009 10:41am
lucas arts made some bad ass mid 90's PC games.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 10:42am edited Dec 18,2009 10:43am
Diablo is ovrerrated click n slash IMO.

Good game but worthy of top 10? Fuckkk no



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Dec 18,2009 10:46am
Rollercoaster Tycoon was one of my favorite PC games ever.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Dec 18,2009 10:46am
ARIL CANT HANDLE MY HAMMERDIN



toggletoggle post by SLAG NLI HELP ME at Dec 18,2009 10:54am
Diablo was for me, about the atmosphere, the music, the polish... and battle.net was a game changer at the time.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 10:58am
Normality, sim city 2000, the neverhood, need for speed II, age of wonders, homeworld, Starcraft, rainbow 6, shadow warrior, doom III, doom, blood, all ultimas, among many others need to be higher on the list.

If turok is on that list then I'm official done with pc gamer.



toggletoggle post by SLAG NLI HELP ME at Dec 18,2009 10:59am
NFS II was a bad ass game for it's time. Homeworld also.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 11:04am
I agree with you about diablos atmosphere etc. To me, that's what made the game. But I think the overall style and game play got extremely repetative. Was never a huge fan of those click adventures.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Dec 18,2009 11:14am
i dont have an order but mine would be diablo 2, half life, starcraft, doom 2, quake, warhammer 40000: dawn of war, star wars: knights of the old republic, fallout 2, warcraft 2



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Dec 18,2009 12:02pm
these are all great games. to rate them on a list is really lame.

i like the diablo series a lot, mainly for the music(!) and atmosphere, but the point and click does gets tired quickly. not enough strategerey. blizzard games never fail to have excellent music and sound, i'm excited for starcraft 2 and diablo 3 if only for the music alone.

i can say the most fun i've ever had playing pc games was half-life 2 (to this day) and starcraft.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Dec 18,2009 12:06pm
SLAG%20NLI%20HELP%20ME said[orig][quote]
Homeworld
oh wow. yeah.




toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 12:12pm
Homeworld won game of the year. Surprised it wasn't higher on the list.



toggletoggle post by C.dEad at Dec 18,2009 12:15pm
I don't understand how Warcraft 2, Wolfenstein 3-D and Doom aren't on that list. Those are my fondest memories when I played games on the PC.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 18,2009 12:15pm edited Dec 18,2009 12:21pm
I guess it's tough because there's so many games. No ones played them all. I remember most of them from all my demo discs I had.

If you guys like fantasy and turn based strat, I highly recommend age of wonders (1st one). Perhaps one of the most epic games ever.
I'm also surprised that not many mid 90s Sierra games made it high up. Lords of the realm II was awesome and essential to turn based games.



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