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returntothepit >> discuss >> Science takes a new look at psychedelics by the_reverend on Apr 21,2010 9:17am
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 21,2010 9:17am edited Apr 21,2010 9:35am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 21,2010 9:18am
I love how the guy uses the iPad to do a slideshow.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Apr 21,2010 9:29am
I love how I clicked on this thread thinking "what the fuck are prychedellics?"



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 21,2010 9:34am
same.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 21,2010 9:35am
in your face space coyote.



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Apr 21,2010 9:44am
"takes a new look"? Isn't this what MAPS has been doing since the 1980's?

http://www.maps.org/



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Apr 21,2010 9:47am
Hah, just watched the video and they interviewed Rick Doblin. Odd how they didn't mention he was the founder of MAPS, unless I missed that due to the volume being too low at work.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 21,2010 10:17am
MikeofdecrepitudE said[orig][quote]
"takes a new look"? Isn't this what MAPS has been doing since the 1930's?

http://www.maps.org/



toggletoggle post by Paul CNV at Apr 21,2010 10:24am
Fuck disco drugs and painkillers are for cunts... Psychadelics need to come back



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Apr 21,2010 10:24am
lolwut?

"MAPS was founded one year after the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) made MDMA a Schedule 1 drug and criminalized both its recreational and therapeutic uses."

This was 1985



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 21,2010 10:28am



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 21,2010 10:54am
Paul%20CNV said[orig][quote]
Fuck disco drugs and painkillers are for cunts... Psychadelics need to come back


They never left man, you just need to find someone who can make right "ritualistic" brews. (yes i know, do a ritual about it, faggot!"
I constantly preach the healing/teaching powers of Ayahuasca and Mescaline. I honestly believe that i'm a much better person from the experiences i've had with these, and recommend them to anyone who feels like they need to get perspective on their life.



toggletoggle post by hauptpflucker   at Apr 21,2010 10:55am
is Ayahuasca DMT?



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 21,2010 10:57am
yes. It's the brew of a DMT containing plant material (Chaliponga, mimosa hostillis) and an MAOI containing seed/vine (syrian rue) that makes the DMT orally active so you can trip at a slightly more manageable level for about 3 hours.



toggletoggle post by hauptpflucker   at Apr 21,2010 11:00am
the sounds like the makings of a spiritual experience



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 21,2010 11:06am
you have no idea. Literally life changing. I think any more extensive research that's funded in this country on psychedelics will produce results that advocate the use of these substances for use in therapy, and certain treatments. The ones i think they will and should explore will include Psilocybin/Psilocin (mushrooms), DMT, mescaline, and ibogaine. I believe that LSD isn't really as beneficial as these others, although i still thoroughly enjoy the experience. I just believe there is too much confusion with it, and not enough introspection. (While DMT is ALL introspection.)



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 21,2010 11:08am
In case you didn't know, they already have Ibogaine clinics in other countries around the world for opiate addiction treatment. Many, many people have claimed that the one time treatment of it has completely stopped any withdrawals from Opiates. (heroine, OCs, morphine, percs, vics, etc...) Which in my opinion, is a miracle that's worth research.



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toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 22,2010 7:44am
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
you have no idea. Literally life changing. I think any more extensive research that's funded in this country on psychedelics will produce results that advocate the use of these substances for use in therapy, and certain treatments. The ones i think they will and should explore will include Psilocybin/Psilocin (mushrooms), DMT, mescaline, and ibogaine. I believe that LSD isn't really as beneficial as these others, although i still thoroughly enjoy the experience. I just believe there is too much confusion with it, and not enough introspection. (While DMT is ALL introspection.)


agreed. i'm an entirely different person due to mushrooms. one problem is that people take these things casually, at times they really shouldn't be. i for one did that too many times, and it almost ruined them for me. however after actually taking the time to "do a ritual" with them, the experience was 1000 times better.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 22,2010 8:55am


I the spirit molecule the book. I can't watch this video at work, otherwise i'd know if it was for the book or maybe for a movie the made from it. Either way, the BOOK Spirit Molecule is unbelievable. It's about the only doctor in the US to EVER get legal permission to do testing on people with DMT to see about it's therapeutic uses. It chronicles from how he got permission, to the company he had make the drug for him, to interviews with possible subjects, to actual testing (administering DMT to people in a controlled environment.) To how people were affected long term.

Obviously i love DMT. I'm outspoken about it, I advocate it to anyone who'll listen, and all for good reason. It really is so much more profoundly introspective than any other substance. You gotta try it. (ALL OF YOU) which reminds me, i know a guy who makes this tea. Write me if you want to meet him.



toggletoggle post by sigh at Apr 22,2010 9:41am



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 22,2010 9:44am
oh my god, that's amazing. I can't believe they're making a movie out of it. And, yup, after reading the plot summary, it's totally based on the book i was describing. Rick Strassman is the man, i totally respect him for doing what he did with that study. And the book was totally captivating, which for a book that follows a research study, is pretty impressive.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 22,2010 9:46am
Holy crap, it's narrated by Joe Rogan? I knew he was a DMT advocate, but this is the next level..... (i wish i got to narrate this documentary. :( )



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Apr 22,2010 9:47am
Only Self-transforming Machine Elves are real.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 22,2010 9:52am
MikeofdecrepitudE said[orig][quote]
Only Self-transforming Machine Elves are real.


I've met them. have you?



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Apr 22,2010 9:53am
"How wonderful that you're here! You come so rarely! We're so delighted to see you!"



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 22,2010 10:15am
hahahah, awesome. They always come right after the world turns into pixels , then spins into nothingness. I love those little bastards.



toggletoggle post by lemonque at Aug 30,2010 3:05am
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toggletoggle post by Hungtableed at Aug 30,2010 3:09am
I love psychedelics, mainly lsd. HEROIC DOESES OR YOU'RE A PUSSY!



toggletoggle post by Hungtableed at Aug 30,2010 3:15am
DMT is fucking insaaaaaaaaaaane. I thoroughly enjoy me some molly molly molly and shrooms I list at the bottom. Too much body high and too much confusion. All the Lsd ive been getting is extremely clean and not so sketchy like the fuckin rat poisoning i use to take as a kid. Get some L when Furthur tour rolls through Worcester, Family Fluff is the fuckin shit! Swiss crystal is fuckin digital vision, but i feel like im gonna get a nose bleed the whole time. btw, me and my buddies are going on west coast Furthur tour sept 11th to oct 3...absolute hallucinogenic drug slaaaaaam from the minute i walk out my door. Vegas is going to be a fuckin gas after a week and a half of binging!



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 30,2010 8:50am
you can't REALLY group molly with psychedelics, molly's MDMA, which... in case you didn't know, stands for: 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine.....

and the part of that that should jump out at you should be what the "MA" stands for:
methamphetamine
which is speed, and much much much worse for you than any "trips".



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Aug 30,2010 9:53am
I heard Deemers only last 20-30 minutes.



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