in 7th grade, I got food poisoning twice eating meatball subs from the cafe at hood junior highschool.

anyhow, I don't eat meat, but there is a vegan sub place next to grasshoppers in allston. the meatball sub there was so awesome. I've ended up making them for my self (and carina) with veggie stuff from the store. it rules. since then, I've been putting whatever I can into sub rolls. right now, I'm eating veggie ribblets in a sub.

mmm.. what do you put in rolls?

vegetarian meatballs....let's think about this for a little while.

if they make veggie rocky mountain oysters, you'll be in heaven!

i had no idea that place sold subs, let alone good subs. i'd probably still opt for grasshopper. do you use gluten or actually mush veggies together to make your fake meat?

the_reverend said:

We put meat in rolls, hippie. Haha!

And your last for another 13?!?

Pulled pork is the best thing for rolls.

hey Rev..
try using "Gimme Lean" for your meat balls..it comes in a sausage looking package usually in the health food/vegetable section of the market...it makes fucking amazing fake meatballs...

you would be talking about TJ's, an awesome all vegan pizza/sub place.

the buffalo chicken calzone is my favorite.

bob: I've been using the sausage ones for years, but never gave much thought to making meatballs from the meat one.
it's pretty awesome.

try a meatball sub from D'angelo the meatballs they used or at least when I worked there were 100% Soy and i worked there for like 5yrs from 91 to 96

Any kind of food with the word "vegetarian" in it is bound to be disgusting. Just eat a damn cow and get over it. Pussies.

a lot of vegetarian food is great, i just like to have meats/chickens and fishes now and again, so i couldnt do it, although i probably should to lose weight heh.

i always wanted to try a General Tso's chicken sandwich

Rev, I didn't know you were a vegetarian. Are you full blown Vegan? Because I thought you went with me and Mark Richards to Spike's dogs that one time after the misery index show at the AS220.

spike's has veggie dogs. delicious ones at that.

the_reverend said:


Vegetarianism is for homosexuals....

Rev: have you eaten at the Grasshopper's place? I heard it's damn delicious

macaroni and cheese goes great in sub rolls

my sister used to work at Dangelos and they have the best sub rolls ever. I used to make subs out of everything including elios pizza, chef boyardee ravioli and beefaroni. PB&J, Muchrooms and black pepper, mac and cheese... the list goes on and on

Is TJ's the place that up until like 3 years ago was one of Allston's many insanely overpriced Arab-run sub shops? Now it's a vegan place? Are they still putting a $2.00 roll surcharge on subs and charging $3.50 a slice?

oh man, i need a good vegetarian Turkey Sub with the works...i'd kill a man in his sleep for one of those

the_reverend said:


FAG!!!!!

lol you Carina and my woman are gay

lol

look what youre missing, poindexter

TJ's rules. Grasshopper is now having Sunday all you can eat buffets once or twice a month. it's worth checking out.

FUCKYA! TJS RULESSS!!!! VEGAN MEATBALL CALZONE EXTRA SAUCE WOOOOOOOT! VEGAN LASAGNA!!!! BAM!!!!!! VEGAN CHEESECAKE!!!! ZING!

davefromthegrave said:

this is what your eating, ronald mcdonald



After they are taken from their mothers, piglets are mutilated. The confinement, stress, and boredom of life in factory farms causes some pigs to chew their neighbors' tails. Instead of giving them more room or access to the outdoors, factory-farm workers cut off the piglets' tails and cut out some of their teeth, which, like our teeth, are filled with nerve endings. In further efforts to curtail tail-chewing, workers castrate the males without the use of painkillers. This piglet is having his testicles ripped out of his scrotum.

A) how do you know they arent using painkillers
B) that is castration, which is performed in all species not just piglets
C) you can see he is using a knife of some sort, not ripping them off

i know their lives in captivity arent super, but if people want to eat meat, let them eat meat. you dont see meat eaters posting pictures of vegetables saying " look at how they cut the stem off that one, without any painkillers "

it is a choice, as long as you are healthy, who cares what you eat!

I'm a plutoiarian, much like lenny from the smpsons.

YOU R TEH GHEY 4 EATING TEH MEET

just like id boycott the governemnt if i could because they care more for money than people, i boycott the meat and dairy industry for the same reason. the people in these industries would and do (in small degrees) poison your food when it makes them money. lobbiests endorsed by these corporations help decide the federally regulated health laws. conditions in factory farms kill migrant workers, and they dont have to report it, because the workers are illegal aliens. bottom line is, you dont know where the meat comes from, and factory farms do castrate baby pigs without anesthisia, im not making this shit up, i copy and pasted text from a website that documents whats going on in factory farms. ive seen video footage of the same thing happening to multiple piglets, and this shit happens constantly, in diffferent forms, to every type of animal. i made the same "you have to kill something to live" arguments and justifications to myself for a long time, but being a visual person, after i saw video after video of the most horriffice brutalization of animals, i just couldnt eat meat anymore. killing is one thing, a liftime of torture is another.

my rule is more that I had to live on a farm and decided that I couldn't kill the animals myself anymore. If I can't do the means myself, I don't deserve to partake in the ends. I think that unless you could kill/have killed a cow and chopped it up, then eaten it, you shouldn't be able to.

what about Eggs/milk? I lived with chicken for most of my life. I see no problem in feeding them and taking their eggs. same with milk.

What about like.. really mean cows and chickens? Like the ones that kill other cows and chickens.

Do they deserve the sword?

the_reverend said:

I would support small, organic and free range dairy and egg farms if need be. But I feel very healthy and happy not consuming animal products.
The main sources of meat, dairy and poultry come from a business which cares only for profits, and puts very little or no thought to an animal's welfare.
Large dairy farms keep cows impregnated year round for continuous milk production. Cows are separated from their babies, usually immediately after birth. The males are sent to veal farms and the females kept as future dairy cows (If you are buying milk you may be supporting the veal industry). Cows are fed hormones to produce an abnormal amount of milk and suffer health problems.
Chickens in factory farms are packed into small cages their whole lives to produce eggs. If they are not producing enough, they are sometimes "force molted" (egg laying induced by starvation). Because they are kept so close together, they would peck at eachother, except that their beak tips are removed, usually without anesthesia.
It sucks for animals in the US meat and dairy industry. If you care, I think you should do what you feel you can for animals (vegan, vegetarian, or meat eater) Even meat eaters can enjoy vegetarian food too and eat less meat. The reality is, factory farms exists because of the huge demand for meat and dairy. Even eating less animal products will make it easier for factory farms to be replaced by smaller farms. If you eat meat or dairy products, support your local organic/free range farmer!

I'm about to get TJs.. mmm... probably in like an hour.

niccolai said:

HAHAHA

anonymous said:

Oh fancy that....no wonder this board is full of liberal cocksmudges....they're vegetarians....no wonder.

If you are vegetarian you go against God's will...and that in my book is NOT ok.

Plus...vegetarians are fucking idiots.

Vegetarians are fake trendy idiots that follow whatever Liberal agenda that they apply to....FAD.

Vegetarianism is popular amongst the "Grind faggot" types.....just another name for a hippy.

I always find it funny when the fallen death metal heads invoke the lords name.

one nation under God dude.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

Proof that Vegetarians are all asswipes.

the_reverend said:


Hey creampuff...that link is bogus and you know that I'm just fucking with you.

it's wicked hard to hear you with 12" of kabasa that you keep ramming down your throat

Guiltless grill? Is there another kind?



I was looking over a menu in a restaurant the other day when I saw a section for vegetarians; I thought to myself "boy, I sure am glad that I'm not a meat-hating fascist" and I skipped on to the steak section (because I'll be damned if I'm going to pay $15 for an alfalfa sandwich, slice of cucumber and a scoop of cold cottage cheese), but before I turned the page something caught my eye. The heading of the vegetarian section was titled "Guiltless Grill," not because there were menu items with fewer calories and cholesterol (since there were "healthy" chicken dishes discriminated against in this section), but because none of the items used animal products. Think about that phrase for a second. What exactly does "guiltless grill" imply? So I'm supposed to feel guilty now if I eat meat? Screw you.

What pisses me off so much about this phrase is the sheer narrow-mindedness of these stuck up vegetarian assholes. You think you're saving the world by eating a tofu-burger and sticking to a diet of grains and berries? Well here's something that not many vegetarians know (or care to acknowledge): every year millions of animals are killed by wheat and soy bean combines during harvesting season (source). Oh yeah, go on and on for hours about how all of us meat eaters are going to hell for having a steak, but conveniently ignore the fact that each year millions of mice, rabbits, snakes, skunks, possums, squirrels, gophers and rats are ruthlessly murdered as a direct result of YOUR dieting habits. What's that? I'm sorry, I don't hear any more elitist banter from you pompous cocks. Could it be because your shit has been RUINED?



That's right: the gloves have come off. The vegetarian response to this embarrassing fact is "well, at least we're not killing intentionally." So let me get this straight; not only are animals ruthlessly being murdered as a direct result of your diet, but you're not even using the meat of the animals YOU kill? At least we're eating the animals we kill (and although we also contribute to the slaughter of animals during grain harvesting, keep in mind that we're not the ones with a moral qualm about it), not just leaving them to rot in a field somewhere. That makes you just as morally repugnant than any meat-eater any day. Not only that, but you're killing free-roaming animals, not animals that were raised for feed. Their bodies get mangled in the combine's machinery, bones crushed, and you have the audacity to point fingers at the meat industry for humanely punching a spike through a cow's neck? If you think that tofu burgers come at no cost to animals or the environment, guess again.

To even suggest that your meal is some how "guiltless" is absurd. The defense "at least we're not killing intentionally" is bullshit anyway. How is it not intentional if you KNOW that millions of animals die every year in combines during harvest? You expect me to believe that you somehow unintentionally pay money to buy products that support farmers that use combines to harvest their fields? Even if it was somehow unintentional, so what? That suddenly makes you innocent? I guess we should let drunk drivers off the hook too since they don't kill intentionally either, right? There's no way out of this one. The only option left for you dipshits is to buy some land, plant and pick your own crops. Impractical? Yeah, well, so is your stupid diet.

Even if combines aren't used to harvest your food, you think that buying fruits and vegetables (organic or otherwise) is any better? How do you think they get rid of bugs that eat crops in large fields? You think they just put up signs and ask parasites to politely go somewhere else? Actually, I wouldn't put that suggestion past you hippies. One of the methods they use to get rid of pests is to introduce a high level of predators for each particular prey, which wreaks all sorts of havoc on the natural balance of predator/prey populations--causing who knows what kind of damage to the environment. Oops, did I just expose you moral-elitists for being frauds? Damndest thing.

A number of people have pointed out that the amount of grain grown to feed animals for slaughter every year is greater than the amount of grain grown for humans. So I guess the amount of grain grown for human consumption suddenly becomes negligible and we can conveniently ignore the fact that animals are still ruthlessly murdered either way because of your diet, right? Not to mention that the majority of grain grown for livestock is tough as rocks, coarse, and so low-grade that it's only fit for animal consumption in the first place. Spare me the "you could feed 500 people with the grain used to feed one cow" line of shit; it's not the same grain. Then there are the people who jump on the bandwagon with "you could plant billions of potatoes on the land used for cows"--good point, except for the fact that not every plot of land is equally fertile; you think farmers always have a choice on what they do with their land? Also, many vegetarians don't know (or care to acknowledge) that in many parts of the United States they have "control hunts" in which hunting permits are passed out whenever there is a pest problem (the pest here is deer, elk and antelope) that threatens wheat, soy, vegetable and other crops; this happens several times per year. Then some of you throw out claims that "we are trying to limit the suffering." How about you limit MY suffering and shut the hell up about your stupid diet for a change; nobody cares. Even if the number of animals that die in combine deaths every year isn't in the millions, even if it's just one, are you suggesting that the life of one baby rabbit isn't worth saving? Are you placing a value on life? Enjoy your tofu, murderers.

^^^^^^^^^compliments of Maddox^^^^^^^^^

come on, I'll wear a pair of rabbits like boxing gloves and box you. the best thing is I will win cause you will be so distracted by the kabasa you are horking down. and then when I round house you, the rabbit will start screaming. bunnies screaming is the absolute worst thing in the world. just you wait.

Hahahahahahahah.....what's wrong with you?

hoser said:

That article makes some good points. Still, I think it can only be a good thing to try to make changes in your own life (and others) and take action for what you believe in.
But basically people on either side of the issue are too busy labeling themselves and others to see clearly. Actually I think the real issue is human overpopulation. By existing and multiplying we're negatively affecting the the whole planet and its species. It makes me want to vomit when I see people with 6 or more children. Please people, don't breed. Do we really have to have one giant polluted strip mall for a country before the government starts enforcing a limitations on reproduction?
World population 1950: 2,556,517,137
World population 2006: 6,525,486,603 and counting...

let me say it before hoser does.

hoser said:

hoser, you ass!

haha

the_reverend said:


God Bless....

vegetarian or not, chances are you will end up eating meat again in your life. how many 70 year old people do you know that dont eat meat?

i know that there were few if no vegetarians in that generation, but you know what i mean. i just cant picture grandparents not eating meat. they are supposed to be cooking pot roasts on sundays and meatballs, sausage and peppers, etc.

Bingo. This generation is doomed. By doomed I mean that they have all strayed from traditionalism through following the lame preachings of some idiot. Like me. I'm an idiot, but I'll admit it. Not eating meat is just unworldly and taking things too far.....fucking Liberals.....never know when to stop...anything to be different....

there is no reason not to eat meat. if you are vegetarian and your reason is anything other than wanting to be healthy, such as animals youre a moron. if you are vegan you must have no life at all, because if you are associating yourself in anyway, ie; dining in meat serving or animal product restaurants, then you are just as at "fault" or as much of a "problem" as the rest of us.

i hate when people label themselves vegan or go telling people. no one cares, except other prudes trying to be different.

i dont get what vegans are thinking...if we stop eating animals, they will die off, and there will be no more, dogs, cats, pet fish, cows, chickens, pigs, etc..since they dont believe in petting zoo's. fuck it. just grow up and eat a burger.

I could give you a list of over1 million 70+ people who don't eat meat. give me a phone book for india.
they have to be doing something right? I mean, all our jobs are going there.

I remember the meatball subs back in high school.The meatballs had a a funky taste to them

the_reverend said:

no, the jobs come back over here when the companies realize those people can't do them as well as we do them, and that you get what you pay for.

why? that our school system failing since we are the ones scooling them in the first place.

the_reverend said:

that sounds incredible you should do it.

you all missed the point of this thread, stop arguing like nancy pantses.

ever had a subroll with mustard or barbecue sauce? delicious.

me above. still too lazy to log in

the_reverend said:

they can't even speak english,try calling tech support sometime,doesn't matter what for these days,somedipshit in india answers the phone who can't speak english,oh yeah, real threat to the workforce india is
we should be dropping cows from helicopters in india,

back to the point, who cares about india? this is the US of A, we love meat, we are biggets, we lie, steal, and dont go to church on sunday...ha

if you do the math, you path them 1/10 what they pay here, but it takes twice as long.

indians,niggers...same thing